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nwt1976 12-10-2010 07:09 PM

how much power from mod's???
 
getting my99 gc8 tuned on thursday by MMS and was wondering how much power it will make.
alltronics smc, turbo back exhaust, aps cold air intake, silicon intake, processwest tmic, upgraded fuel pump, everything else stock standard.

Mister Two 12-10-2010 07:12 PM

wow. all that and still on the stock td04 turbo?

around 160kw atw tops.

redlib 12-10-2010 07:12 PM

210 to 220hp atw

V3 RA 12-10-2010 07:15 PM

[QUOTE=nwt1976;500094]getting my99 gc8 tuned on thursday by MMS and was wondering how much power it will make.
alltronics smc, turbo back exhaust, aps cold air intake, silicon intake, processwest tmic, upgraded fuel pump, everything else stock standard.[/QUOTE]

any reason why you didnt upgrade the turbo and injectors as well? you would definately see a massive improvement then! you should still see a nice improvement in power...best of luck with the tune!

its 'autronics' too :p

monkeee 12-10-2010 07:15 PM

as above

160kw/220hp with a heap more midrange torque :)

nwt1976 12-10-2010 07:18 PM

turbo and injectors coming later i'm thinking vf34 but maybe something larger not sure.

V3 RA 12-10-2010 07:23 PM

[QUOTE=nwt1976;500106]turbo and injectors coming later i'm thinking vf34 but maybe something larger not sure.[/QUOTE]

should have done it all at once and saved on tuning, if the funds allowed.

vf34 should go pretty well, is it still a 205? probabaly don't want to push it too much harder especially if it has plenty of kms on it

nwt1976 12-10-2010 07:24 PM

any suggestions other than vf34

nwt1976 12-10-2010 07:27 PM

it's ej205 with 112000km and probably shouldn't push it too far.

V3 RA 12-10-2010 07:30 PM

[QUOTE=nwt1976;500109]any suggestions other than vf34[/QUOTE]

what are you looking for from the car? track, drags, street etc
is it an ej205 engine still?

TD-05 16g is pretty similar to the vf34, but alot of people opt for the vf34 + STi top mount road, good balance between horsepower and response. There isn't alot of difference between the 02+ STi top mounts and the process west cooler.

Personally i find said combo a little boring but on a 205 its a proven combo and cars make a reliable 200kw atw. On a daily, I'd think its your best option.

Killer Python 12-10-2010 07:32 PM

is there much difference if u get a front mount with that combo? any idea on the power increase?

V3 RA 12-10-2010 07:35 PM

[QUOTE=Killer Python;500117]is there much difference if u get a front mount with that combo? any idea on the power increase?[/QUOTE]

not much power increase if any, only more lag! at that sized turbo, a top mount flows more than enough air and will not be your restriction.

nwt1976 12-10-2010 07:38 PM

its just a daily driven car, not looking for large horse power but something extra than what it is. i would have done turbo and injectors e.t.c all at once but it does come down to time and $$$$.

V3 RA 12-10-2010 07:42 PM

[QUOTE=nwt1976;500122]its just a daily driven car, not looking for large horse power but something extra than what it is. i would have done turbo and injectors e.t.c all at once but it does come down to time and $$$$.[/QUOTE]

add injectors and turbo, you'll be looking at 190-200 kw atw. At least you're heading in the right direction, good choice of mods so far. Get the suspension and braking sorted and you'll have a very slick daily.

nwt1976 12-10-2010 07:48 PM

sweet cheers for reply

cougermoon 12-10-2010 07:54 PM

excellent thread!, report back with updates on what power u made and good luck!

Killer Python 12-10-2010 08:09 PM

if u went from a front mount to the largest top mount that will fit a gc8, the GD sti i think u guys said? being that the flow wouldnt change would u need a retune?

Mister Two 12-10-2010 08:14 PM

You should get a retune. There will be less lag. so you'll have more boost down the lower end of the rev range. Need to get it tuned to suit.

V3 RA 12-10-2010 08:14 PM

[QUOTE=Killer Python;500138]if u went from a front mount to the largest top mount that will fit a gc8, the GD sti i think u guys said? being that the flow wouldnt change would u need a retune?[/QUOTE]

I would get one. The flow [B]will[/B] change, ie more flow down low due to less piping on a top mount in comparison to a front mount. So although flow rates won't change all that much, where in the rpm range it flows will...if that makes sense. :o

Doh beaten

Killer Python 12-10-2010 08:15 PM

fack costs more to convert then, oh well

mattmy99 12-10-2010 09:00 PM

It all comes down to tuning.
It's possible to make less than stock power...
On the other hand, you could also get 200kw out of it... for a while.

Killer Python 12-10-2010 09:16 PM

whats a while? lol as thats what i make

mattmy99 12-10-2010 09:18 PM

on a td04?

Killer Python 12-10-2010 09:21 PM

na vf34, 200 kw on a td04 at explosion zone?

mattmy99 12-10-2010 09:23 PM

200kw is pretty normal for vf34.
OP has a standard TD04.

nwt1976 12-10-2010 09:36 PM

[QUOTE=cougermoon;500131]excellent thread!, report back with updates on what power u made and good luck![/QUOTE]



no worries, will post results later in the week.

SL33P3R 12-10-2010 10:02 PM

[QUOTE=V3 RA;500119]not much power increase if any, only more lag! at that sized turbo, a top mount flows more than enough air and will not be your restriction.[/QUOTE]

i have seen an easy 308kw atw in a 05 STI with a hyperflow top mount, defenately not a restriction

Mister Two 12-10-2010 10:14 PM

[quote=sl33p3r;500215]i have seen an easy 308kw atw in a 05 sti with a hyperflow top mount, defenately not a restriction[/quote]

bahhhahahahahaha.

SL33P3R 12-10-2010 10:45 PM

[QUOTE=Mister Two;500221]bahhhahahahahaha.[/QUOTE]

you don't believe me? V3 RA (chad) knows the car

nicebus 12-10-2010 11:31 PM

[QUOTE=SL33P3R;500215]i have seen an easy 308kw atw in a 05 STI with a hyperflow top mount, defenately not a restriction[/QUOTE]

400+ hp. (easy) You having a lend bro ?

V3 RA 13-10-2010 12:04 AM

[QUOTE=SL33P3R;500234]you don't believe me? V3 RA (chad) knows the car[/QUOTE]

the silver STi graham was showing me around? We were having a look at the fuel system on it.
Is that the same car that had the replacement full cosworth crate long motor in it? The first motor fucked up due to a fueling issue and its now on the engine stand next to my motor?

SL33P3R 13-10-2010 08:36 AM

[QUOTE=V3 RA;500248]the silver STi graham was showing me around? We were having a look at the fuel system on it.
Is that the same car that had the replacement full cosworth crate long motor in it? The first motor fucked up due to a fueling issue and its now on the engine stand next to my motor?[/QUOTE]

exactly, has all the right bits, but point is it's all running through a top mount intercooler

Kato 13-10-2010 09:37 AM

What turbo though?

V3 RA 13-10-2010 10:28 AM

[QUOTE=Kato;500281]What turbo though?[/QUOTE]

whatever it is, its mounted in the stock position.

jEstEr? 14-10-2010 02:21 PM

In other news, VF48


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