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lachy294 12-02-2016 11:17 AM

Collateral Damage - What have you broken?
 
So as we all know there are a few weak links with Subaru's, so as a bit of Friday fun, What have you broken on your car (or a car you've been in)?

I know there are going to be a lot of smashed 5 speeds but I'm sure there are a few more "how the f*ck" ones going around.

Ill start off with my power steering pump... it wanted to eat itself.. here was the end result. Should be a nice smooth face...
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And Denvers 4th gear dog ring that went bang last night at rally sprint
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dazdavies 12-02-2016 12:05 PM

A couple of the ones i've had.

This was a stock 3.54 R160 Diff this happened at around 500hp

[img]http://www.scoob.co.uk/rebuild/knackereddiff4.jpg[/img]

This was the failure that made me learn to do things myself.

I spent roughly $16000 for a motosport company in the UK (TSL) to do a build for me and it failed on it first trackday.

[img]http://www.scoob.co.uk/rb5failure/1.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.scoob.co.uk/rb5failure/2.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.scoob.co.uk/rb5failure/3.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.scoob.co.uk/rb5failure/4.jpg[/img]

lachy294 12-02-2016 12:09 PM

WOW, i guess they just wiped their hands and said your problem? A little bit of ping in the mix there too?

AWDmoke 12-02-2016 02:40 PM

A little too much on the rev limiter during the SES sprint at Collie last October made a nasty noise from #2 under the rocker cover, so I guess it's spat a shim (WRX not Sti).

Haven't bothered to pull it apart yet, but I will take photos.

dazdavies 12-02-2016 03:51 PM

[QUOTE=lachy294;835499]WOW, i guess they just wiped their hands and said your problem? A little bit of ping in the mix there too?[/QUOTE]

Having spent $16000 with them they wouldn't even give me a fixed quote for dropping a used long motor in just to get me up and running again.

The car got towed back to me with all the engine components in cardboard boxes on the back seat and in the boot.

I bought a PDF Workshop manual on ebay and spent around $600 on tools and rebuilt the bugger myself. I've never looked back and have done all my own work since.

lachy294 12-02-2016 04:25 PM

[QUOTE=dazdavies;835514]Having spent $16000 with them they wouldn't even give me a fixed quote for dropping a used long motor in just to get me up and running again.

The car got towed back to me with all the engine components in cardboard boxes on the back seat and in the boot.

I bought a PDF Workshop manual on ebay and spent around $600 on tools and rebuilt the bugger myself. I've never looked back and have done all my own work since.[/QUOTE]

Nice work on going the rebuild path yourself shame it happened in a shit way. it doesnt even look like they checked the valve clearences on the other cylinders as well?

dazdavies 12-02-2016 05:09 PM

It all went in the scrap bin apart from the Rods. I was quoted and paid for Carillos and when I opened it up there were Eagles in there. Annoyed was an understatement.

Surprisingly despite the damage to the pistons the rods were fine. They were checked measured and crack tested and were reused in my first build.

The heads were ported and polished so I'm assuming they were checked but you never know with half of these places what they do and don't do.

If my engines fuck up these days I can only blame myself.

RichX 12-02-2016 06:41 PM

Not too many breakages for me. I'm pretty sympathetic on cars.

#1 Brant. Fucked me over for a while. Ripped it out.

#2 Front right brake line. Came off it's clip, rubbed against the inner wheel until it cut a hole through it and punched out fluid when I went for the brakes one day.

#3 Top rad hose. Installed bigger radiator, thermo fan cut a hole through it on on a track day and it pissed out. Noticed before it even got hot thankfully.

#4 Power steering hose to the rack - was leaning up against the dump pipe. Burned a hole through it and it blew while turning one day pissing high pressure fluid onto a hot dump pipe. That was not good.

#5 Replaced the 5 speed with a 6 speed before I broke it.

#6 Typical split CV boot on the right front.

#7 Latest one, the A/C thermal expansion valve between the firewall and the evaporator.

#8 Clutch Issue, works in progress.

I think that's it.

Bram 12-02-2016 07:17 PM

This was my engine meltdown. Got one of those awesome internet tunes from "throttle crappy". Nek minnet, #2 piston was a molten puddle of fail. Turns out he had NFI how to tune.

[img]http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm27/im_lunch_box/2012-06-30122834.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm27/im_lunch_box/2012-07-04202220.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm27/im_lunch_box/2012-07-04223609.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm27/im_lunch_box/2012-07-05180429.jpg[/img]

Check out the molten piston that has coated the little end.

[img]http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm27/im_lunch_box/2012-07-08112645.jpg[/img]

dnbosiris 12-02-2016 07:24 PM

3 Attachment(s)
1. piston failure by caused by excessive boost and massively leaning out ... caused by not getting a retune done after removing a blocked up cat (they were factory forged 2l pistons). rods and crank survived.

2. set my engine bay properly on fire by not installing injectors properly.

both expensive lessons .. but lessons nonetheless :P

nick73 12-02-2016 08:13 PM

Because wanna be racecar, fail....

[IMG]http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii485/nick730105/P1030739_zpssqxu9iqm.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii485/nick730105/P1030735_zpskpe2rmbe.jpg[/IMG]

GTLeggy 12-02-2016 08:43 PM

250Kmph 10200rpm limiter bash backfire gear miss overrev @ ~620hp atw = blender

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/OCI7oIe.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/WJ4RFsh.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/0AVpua1.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/BEKFpG5.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/70mlFVj.jpg[/IMG]

Dan [GTI] 12-02-2016 09:01 PM

That looks like modern abstract art ;)

VUSSUTE 12-02-2016 09:15 PM

Im not trying to be rude.... but 16k and they build you an open deck block??


[QUOTE=dazdavies;835497]A couple of the ones i've had.

This was a stock 3.54 R160 Diff this happened at around 500hp

[IMG]http://www.scoob.co.uk/rebuild/knackereddiff4.jpg[/IMG]

This was the failure that made me learn to do things myself.

I spent roughly $16000 for a motosport company in the UK (TSL) to do a build for me and it failed on it first trackday.

[IMG]http://www.scoob.co.uk/rb5failure/1.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.scoob.co.uk/rb5failure/2.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.scoob.co.uk/rb5failure/3.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.scoob.co.uk/rb5failure/4.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

Bram 12-02-2016 09:16 PM

Wow. Some epic ej explodes. I know chris has a good one. The old external combustion engine...

dazdavies 13-02-2016 01:25 AM

[QUOTE=VUSSUTE;835535]Im not trying to be rude.... but 16k and they build you an open deck block??[/QUOTE]


Your point is what exactly? Don't jump to conclusions.

It wasn't a 500hp build so it didn't need a CDB for the power levels I was aiming for. I'd also much rather have a build using a 2.0L open deck block than I would a build using 2.5 semi closed deck block. Have you seen how thin the cylinder walls are on a stock EJ257?

It's one of those BS myths that seem to do the rounds that you need a CDB or SCDB for any kind of build. Its usually the same people that tell you that you need aftermarket cams for 350HP

Had mine not been sleeved i wouldn't have a 2.5 of any sort in my current build.

But to put your theory to rest, the $16K included new crank rods and pistons, Tomei headers, new Vf34, head porting and polishing, tuning dyno time, an ecutek licence, machining and labour. Comparing that to some of the receipts I've seen here for builds it was a bargain.

The 207 wasn't around back then so reusing the stock block halves with aims of around 350hp was not unreasonable. The costs of converting a CDB at the time just werent worth it for the power level I was aiming for.

It was also 16 years ago too and I knew fuck all about Subarus then. The whole mess led me to learn how to build them myself so in a way I'm glad it happened.

Next!

Dan [GTI] 13-02-2016 09:38 AM

luckily nothing in a Subaru yet [I]**touch wood**[/I] but had a small failure on my MPS which could have been a lot worse.

The high pressure fuel pump internals failed due to the shafts incorrect tolerances causing excess lateral movement. Sent the part back to the manufacturer who gave me a full refund and a free replacement set of internals.
[IMG]http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o788/DanMPS3/image_zpsc2aa4b87.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o788/DanMPS3/image_zps7ece18e8.jpg[/IMG]

It failed at WOT but thankfully the ECU / COBB AP put the car into limp mode when a dangerous lean AFR situation was produced. So no engine damage, just a long drive home from the Motorplex...


[QUOTE=dazdavies;835546]...the $16K included new crank rods and pistons, Tomei headers, new Vf34, head porting and polishing, tuning dyno time, an ecutek licence, machining and labour. Comparing that to some of the receipts I've seen here for builds it was a bargain...[/QUOTE]

That is a pretty conservative price list by most standards :cool: don't want to think about the money I have spent on cars over the years.

REXXXED 2.0 13-02-2016 11:18 AM

only things failed on my car atm were
vf34 bearings failed huge amounts of play front to back
stock intake pipe . now has a avo one

and a shitty walbro 255 sucked in air and would not go over 1bar with out surging . replaced with a dw200

touch wood nothing more :)

custard is love custard is life

Dan [GTI] 13-02-2016 11:31 AM

This thread is missing someone ;)

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Jezza 13-02-2016 12:08 PM

Crunched 2nd on a 5 speed

Snapped a rear sway bar mount

Broke a cv joint


That's about it in the 8 years I've owned my GC. Always learnt from mistakes and replaced failure parts with stronger items.

VUSSUTE 13-02-2016 12:21 PM

Sorry i think you got me wrong. I didnt know 16k was for mods also, sounded like just the block build. I though 16k for a block build only was excessive.... and thought for 16k would of included a SCD block


[QUOTE=dazdavies;835546]Your point is what exactly? Don't jump to conclusions.

It wasn't a 500hp build so it didn't need a CDB for the power levels I was aiming for. I'd also much rather have a build using a 2.0L open deck block than I would a build using 2.5 semi closed deck block. Have you seen how thin the cylinder walls are on a stock EJ257?

It's one of those BS myths that seem to do the rounds that you need a CDB or SCDB for any kind of build. Its usually the same people that tell you that you need aftermarket cams for 350HP

Had mine not been sleeved i wouldn't have a 2.5 of any sort in my current build.

But to put your theory to rest, the $16K included new crank rods and pistons, Tomei headers, new Vf34, head porting and polishing, tuning dyno time, an ecutek licence, machining and labour. Comparing that to some of the receipts I've seen here for builds it was a bargain.

The 207 wasn't around back then so reusing the stock block halves with aims of around 350hp was not unreasonable. The costs of converting a CDB at the time just werent worth it for the power level I was aiming for.

It was also 16 years ago too and I knew fuck all about Subarus then. The whole mess led me to learn how to build them myself so in a way I'm glad it happened.

Next![/QUOTE]

dazdavies 13-02-2016 12:36 PM

This is what happens when you jump to conclusions ��

xr06t 13-02-2016 06:12 PM

your post does say
[QUOTE]spent roughly $16000 for a motosport company in the UK (TSL) to do a build for me[/QUOTE]
im sure most here would assume you meant engine build. no real need to thread shit

dazdavies 13-02-2016 07:12 PM

Thread shit? What like you've just done. Good one mate top class.

Bram 13-02-2016 07:35 PM

Less jibber jabber, more fucked EJs please.

munya 14-02-2016 08:20 AM

Went Dokdok at the October rally sprint...let's not mention how many 5/6speed boxes I have replaced so that counts hey

amtrapid 14-02-2016 11:37 AM

LOl ok so on the old girl so far ,
1 x 5speed 1st gear
6 rear cvs ( 1.5 way cusco and rwd with heavy jandal)
1x vf29 turbo.

Previous Subarus Mainly Rallying over east and NZ.( Look good drive Shit lol )

2x EJs one was oil pickup failure , other was using the Rh front of engine to stop the car while rallying .
5 x 5 speeds . 1x front diff fail ,2x 2nd gear , 1x 3 rd gear 1x snapped input shaft.
1x complete car while using the rhf of engine to stop and car flipping on embankment while rallying .

front wheel bearings a couple of times .
2x steering racks bent and several uprights and wheels and lower control arms .front and rear.

xr06t 14-02-2016 06:22 PM

[QUOTE=dazdavies;835569]Thread shit? What like you've just done. Good one mate top class.[/QUOTE]

and it continues....

Very lengthly list there Amtrapid!

I haven't actually managed to break anything subaru related before! I did somehow manage to break a 5th gear syncro which Ford assured me was my fault and wouldn't warrant on a BA xr6t. Unfortunately no pics. Also 2nd gear syncro on the same gbox, and some cv joints. Nothing too major, fingers crossed with the wrx :)

Jezza 14-02-2016 07:18 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Also not sure whose is whose... But here are a couple of pics of the broken 5 speeds in my family

[ATTACH]15801[/ATTACH][ATTACH]15802[/ATTACH]

V3 RA 14-02-2016 08:52 PM

Two 5 speeds in my 98 wrx
PPG straight cut 5 speed in the RA
Big end bearing in the RA

3 years on the new motor and 2 on the 6 speed with nothing to report, could almost call it a reliable 400hp daily (touch wood)

lachy294 15-02-2016 12:36 PM

[QUOTE=dnbosiris;835529]1. piston failure by caused by excessive boost and massively leaning out ... caused by not getting a retune done after removing a blocked up cat (they were factory forged 2l pistons). rods and crank survived.

2. set my engine bay properly on fire by not installing injectors properly.

both expensive lessons .. but lessons nonetheless :P[/QUOTE]

Jeez glad to see the car is still kicking along though! Guess there is a fire extinguisher in there now :P

[QUOTE=nick73;835530]Because wanna be racecar, fail....

[IMG]http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii485/nick730105/P1030735_zpskpe2rmbe.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

What happened to the drivers seat? Mounts bend in the impact?

Saint_23 15-02-2016 01:49 PM

I broke some things on the front once.

nick73 15-02-2016 01:52 PM

[QUOTE=lachy294;835619]Jeez glad to see the car is still kicking along though! Guess there is a fire extinguisher in there now :P



What happened to the drivers seat? Mounts bend in the impact?[/QUOTE]


Mounts were intact, the seat frame bent, which apparently it is meant to do in that type of rearward crash.

munya 15-02-2016 04:11 PM

[QUOTE=Saint_23;835626]I broke some things on the front once.[/QUOTE]

And a gate don't forget the gate:D

Andy 15-02-2016 06:54 PM

Several roof skins, Rad supports, Front and rear windscreens, Cross members, Chassis rails and many bent struts.


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