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carlbond1982 25-08-2016 09:41 AM

Brant Installer
 
Hi all

I'm looking for a place in WA that has experience in installing the brant system. Also apart from the key pad what other things I need for it? like the siren? or what ever else

Cheers

Jacob92 25-08-2016 10:21 AM

Trust me you do NOT want brant installed .. there are other systems similar but avoid brant ..

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carlbond1982 25-08-2016 11:08 AM

I've had the system in my WRX for 7 years and once had a problem maybe due to direct sunlight on the key pad during summer and had to replace the module. Apart from that it has worked perfect, Also earlier this year I had a break and they stole my keys and was lucky to push the car up to the corner of the street before giving up. So i really do want one in my next WRX. I am still interested in looking for a installer but what other system are there that do a key pad like the Brant? I heard people saying they hate the Brant with all the problems but im one that has been 100% happy with little faults.

Darken 25-08-2016 11:14 AM

I'd be keen to hear what other options there are aswell. But from experience aswell the Brant was never really a issue. :)


[QUOTE=carlbond1982;840873]I've had the system in my WRX for 7 years and once had a problem maybe due to direct sunlight on the key pad during summer and had to replace the module. Apart from that it has worked perfect, Also earlier this year I had a break and they stole my keys and was lucky to push the car up to the corner of the street before giving up. So i really do want one in my next WRX. I am still interested in looking for a installer but what other system are there that do a key pad like the Brant? I heard people saying they hate the Brant with all the problems but im one that has been 100% happy with little faults.[/QUOTE]

fobz 25-08-2016 07:19 PM

Don't install the Brant. I say this for a simple reason: They're everywhere. If you use something that is mainstream, then you'll be sure that more people know how to circumvent it. The standard "from subaru install" of a Brant was all done in the same way for huge batches of vehicles. As such, anyone who has removed one, will know either what you have to cut/connect on the main harness to bypass it, or which bits to short out on the circuit board to bypass it. Most of the time in less than 90 seconds.



I am more paranoid than most, so this bit of advice is something that some people say is over the top: Don't get a normal installer to put any security device in your car. Get a trusted friend to do it or do it yourself. If you get your anti-hijack installed at the local car stereo place, do you really know who has done it ? Do you trust their apprentice that saw your pride and joy and knows exactly how the alarm is installed ? Do you trust that the apprentice will not spout off to his mates at the pub about the awesome WRX and how he knows how to steal it ?



If you can, install it yourself. Hey, build it yourself. Start with:

Here for backlit metal keypads:
[url=http://www.tme.eu/en/details/kb304-mns-wp-b/keypads/accord/]KB304-MNS-WP-B ACCORD - Keypad: universal | TME - Electronic components[/url]

Here for a hyped up 32bit 72 Mhz CPU board (Arduino compatible)
[url]https://www.pjrc.com/store/teensy32.html[/url]

And use a LM2940C for the power supply, not that shitty LM7805 stuff.

... then in no time you will have a system that nobody has ever seen, installed or bypassed before.


Or... just get a trunk monkey
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AidAXgq9dWc&list=PLoxADsZ9YforxtjWODy3Kz_8JjLH-Nxp7[/url]

nick73 25-08-2016 07:26 PM

^Gold!

carlbond1982 25-08-2016 08:32 PM

I think going for a trunk monkey is probably the best option lol

[QUOTE=fobz;840887]Or... just get a trunk monkey
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AidAXgq9dWc&list=PLoxADsZ9YforxtjWODy3Kz_8JjLH-Nxp7[/URL][/QUOTE]

I hear what your saying, as the Brants is not common in the newer WRX's and the Sigma system is more installed and a lot not even installed at all. It's more the older models of WRX's that used the Brants, plus people had some of theres disabled for there own reasons, not sure what year they slowed down on which means the common car thieves have next to no idea how to bypass them properly. Ripping the key pad out disables the car and jumping under the bonnet does the same this is from experience. I spoke to a person at a local car shop that knows the Brants well and said it takes a little bit of time to bypass them without bricking the car and thats a pro at work, is a pity he left. I know the quick way of bypassing it but you still need to speak to Brant or Subaru over the phone from memory.

Still I want to way up my options and see who does it or what other systems are out there that do the same thing. I dont plan to have it done in the same suburb or give my address out so it cuts down the chances of a inside job. I'm not that handy so i will stick with a pro.

carlbond1982 26-08-2016 08:14 AM

Anyways I think it kind of went off topic and got Hi jacked with everyone's opinions/advice which I really do appreciate.

Still down to the question. Where is there a place in WA that has experience in installing the Brant system? and what other Systems are out there that can do the same thing?

Soksta 26-08-2016 08:21 AM

[QUOTE=carlbond1982;840904]what other Systems are out there that can do the same thing?[/QUOTE]

Some people on here have upgraded from the stock Brant alarm to an Autowatch alarm.

type25 26-08-2016 09:24 AM

[QUOTE=carlbond1982;840889]

Still I want to way up my options and see who does it or what other systems are out there that do the same thing.[COLOR="Red"] I dont plan to have it done in the same suburb or give my address out so it cuts down the chances of a inside job.[/COLOR] I'm not that handy so i will stick with a pro.[/QUOTE]

Talk about paranoid!

Please enlighten us as to what is so special about your 09 WRX that a professional/licenced car alarm installer may consider doing an "inside job" to steal your precious vehicle.

My advice; get a quality alarm (perhaps an Autowatch) installed by a licenced car security installer, and comprehensively insure your vehicle with a reputable insurance company, advising them of the make and model of alarm fitted.

Brett Allan 26-08-2016 09:33 AM

Autowatch 446Rli.

100x better than Brant.

Mao @ Evo R installed mine and ripped out the POS Brant.

Has glass break, shock and ultrasonic sensors + I've added the window close module.

Very happy with it.

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carlbond1982 26-08-2016 10:05 AM

[QUOTE=Soksta;840905]Some people on here have upgraded from the stock Brant alarm to an Autowatch alarm.[/QUOTE]

Cheers I will have a look into it

type25 well there are no decent installers in the area so I have to go a few suburbs away and I never give out my address as it is not really needed, if I need to give out anything i use my po box. There is nothing special about the car I just don't want it stolen, as one other person mention someone talking to his mates down at the pub about working on the car. These sort of cars are worth a bit of $$$ scrapped.

carlbond1982 26-08-2016 10:07 AM

[QUOTE=Brett Allan;840907]Autowatch 446Rli.

100x better than Brant.

Mao @ Evo R installed mine and ripped out the POS Brant.

Has glass break, shock and ultrasonic sensors + I've added the window close module.

Very happy with it.

using the Perth-WRX mobile app[/QUOTE]

Ill check out that model

Bandit 26-08-2016 10:48 AM

The Brant alarms were all installed the same way , as per Subaru's demands. Each car came with it's own set of codes for each specific VIN and were of a random assignment. Saying you don't know who installs a system at your local audio shop only carries the same risk as the person(s) who installed your Brant systems when they came off the boat. Having been in and out of the industry since 1999, I am yet to come across an audio/security "apprentice" as has been worded somewhere in the thread. The Brant alarm itself, while not everybody's cup of tea, I have found to be quite a reliable system - with the only real issue I have found being the range you get to unlock the car - sometimes I find myself having to stand rather close to the car before it arms/disarms. The Brant keypad immobilisers are known for being troublesome. There is a replacement aftermarket keypad system available, only downside to it being that it doesn't come with an anti-hijack option.

If one were to insist on going aftermarket for the full alarm system, there are a number of systems available. Some of which can operate from the factory Subaru key (like your Brant does) as well as some that come with their own remote controls. The level of security doesn't change a hell of a lot, depending how many "bells/whistles" you feel you need in a car alarm. Autowatch as a brand no longer have their own supply branch in WA although they're still available to obtain; and while they are known for being a reliable system among the "cool crowd," it may be worth shopping around as there are other options available for various budgets that can still offer a great level of protection. I would advise against fitting your own system unless you are sufficiently experienced, to help avoid damaging BCMs etc; not to mention insurance purposes etc. From an installer's point of view, as well as being a life-long car enthusiast, it's not worth taking risks/shortcuts, especially when it comes to protecting your hard-earned pride & joy.

Bandit 26-08-2016 10:54 AM

[QUOTE=carlbond1982;840904]Anyways I think it kind of went off topic and got Hi jacked with everyone's opinions/advice which I really do appreciate.

Still down to the question. Where is there a place in WA that has experience in installing the Brant system? and what other Systems are out there that can do the same thing?[/QUOTE]

Action Alarms were the "go-to" people for Brant in WA. Not sure if Brant systems are still available though. Maybe give them a call.

carlbond1982 26-08-2016 04:36 PM

[QUOTE=Bandit;840917]Action Alarms were the "go-to" people for Brant in WA. Not sure if Brant systems are still available though. Maybe give them a call.[/QUOTE]

Thanks I gave them a call and they can install a similar system. I'm only interested in a key pad system with add ons, as you can spend $1000 -$2000 on a system but it's worth nothing if they steal your keys which is more common then hot wiring a car.

Bandit 27-08-2016 07:42 AM

[QUOTE=carlbond1982;840929]Thanks I gave them a call and they can install a similar system. I'm only interested in a key pad system with add ons, as you can spend $1000 -$2000 on a system but it's worth nothing if they steal your keys which is more common then hot wiring a car.[/QUOTE]

Yes. Unfortunately, this is the case these days...


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