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Mister Two 17-01-2008 10:06 AM

Clutch Problem
 
I have a bit of a nagging problem with my clutch pedal.

When I brake with anything more than moderately hard pressure, by clutch pedal falls halfway to the floor. It doesnt happen every single time I brake hard, but most of the time. And it is more likely to happen if I brake and turn and use rev-matching for gear changes.
The pedal will return to normal on the first pump but this is becoming a major annoyance now. There are no problems during normal daily driving.

The clutch was replaced on last friday with an Exedy standard replacement kit. NOT HD. Included a new pressure plate and thrust bearing. My spigot bearing was inspected and is fine.
And the clutch hydraulics were bled and fluids replaced just earlier this week. I did it myself using the reverse bleed method with a syringe. I am confident there is no air in the lines.
HOWEVER, this problem I am having was occuring before the clutch change and fluid bleed also.

Any thoughts from the pros as to the cause?

Darren 17-01-2008 11:59 AM

Stab in the dark - Clutch slave cylinder?

Darren

Clint 17-01-2008 12:03 PM

^^ What he said.

Mister Two 17-01-2008 12:07 PM

Under normal operation. the clutch is fine. It disengages and re-engages normally and smoothly.

What I dont understand is how differing degrees of braking can affect the operation of the slave or master cylinders

Edit: There are also no leaks anywhere on the clutch hydraulics.

phizzle 17-01-2008 12:20 PM

Have you got fat feet or wear Ronald McDonald sized shoes?

Firewall flexing? Something catching up near the hinges of the brake and clutch pedal?

I don't get it. When you push on the pedals the fluid is supposed to be compressed through the lines to engage the other end into action. Meaning if you push on your brake pedal and your clutch pedal travels, it must be trying to disengage the clutch. It doesn't make any sense at all.

Darren 17-01-2008 12:38 PM

Both systems (I believe but google may be failing me here :P ) are vacuum assisted. I'm not sure if there is some kind of link between the two systems but perhaps some kind of proportioning valve is faxored and may cause a problem.

Once again, I preface this with the statement that this is a complete stab in the dark.

Darren

Mister Two 18-01-2008 08:30 AM

Clutch hydraulics are not vacuum assisted.


Just for kicks I have re-bled the clutch system last night and took extra effort to make doubly sure that there is ZERO air in the system.

Still the same problem.

Im all out of ideas

Mister Two 19-01-2008 06:47 PM

I have just replaced the Master Cylinder with a known good one removed from a late model WRX.

Problem persists.

GX-REX 20-01-2008 10:58 AM

[QUOTE=superman]. How did you bleed your clutch??
i hope you know when you bleed a clutch which has a ABS system you have to do it right.. you must start from the right hand rear then left hand front then left hand rear and finish on the right hand front.. hope that will help you..[/QUOTE]

WTF???
The ABS system has nothing to do with the clutch...

RichX 20-01-2008 11:24 AM

Heh, the new ABS Clutch .. Mine actually feels like that in the morning!! :D :D Shudders like hell for the first few mins.


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