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HKS200 13-04-2011 01:59 PM

Mature Japan 5x100 -> 5x114.3 hubs
 
Hey guys I was browsing through my hyper rev the other day and came across what looked like a 5x100 to 5x114.3 conversion hub? can anyone verify this?
It is made by Mature Japan. Sorry I can't read japanese haha.

[URL=http://img844.imageshack.us/i/img2011041300088.jpg/][IMG]http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/5595/img2011041300088.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

BALISTC 13-04-2011 02:37 PM

Interesting! Do they replace the hub, or are they a sort of spacer adaptor??

Maybe Wayne (JDM_STYLE) can source more information on them??

RSR-WRC 13-04-2011 03:05 PM

yes please....... i will take a set.....

JDM_STYLE 13-04-2011 03:08 PM

Looks interesting, I'll send off an inquiry and see what comes back.

Have you got a clearer pic that you could PM me please?

Cheers,

Wayno :icon_thum

BALISTC 13-04-2011 03:10 PM

Thanks Wayno! Let us know how you go :)

HKS200 13-04-2011 03:19 PM

yeah I'll see what I can do, I tried looking at mature's website however all they seem to have are bodykits now. I'll get a pic for ya Wayne very soon.

Cheers

JDM_STYLE 13-04-2011 03:25 PM

Apparently there is a KICS one as well but I'm not really sure these will be legal for street usage as they're basically spacers but will look into both and see what's what.

American Dave 13-04-2011 03:26 PM

pretty sure you can get them from nengun

HKS200 13-04-2011 03:36 PM

[QUOTE=JDM_STYLE;555620]Apparently there is a KICS one as well but I'm not really sure these will be legal for street usage as they're basically spacers but will look into both and see what's what.[/QUOTE]

yeah I've heard about the KICs adapter spacers, my mate used to run them on his forester. They are bolt on so there ok however I'm looking for a full 5x114.3 conversion for my STi.

on a side note, whoever wants a 5x114.3 conversion, stay away from 6 gun racing in the US.

anyway back on track.

here is a clearer picture:
[URL=http://img849.imageshack.us/i/mg9338.jpg/][IMG]http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/8898/mg9338.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

JDM_STYLE 13-04-2011 03:49 PM

Just got a quick reply from Jp and he's pretty adamant that the mature ones and the kics one are basically the same.

He's looking into the mature one's pricing and has given me a pricing for the Kics one which is $300aud shipped to me (wont do drop shipping as he put it, so you'd have to pay shipping from Perth-Syd.)

The kit comes with x2 hubs and appropriate fitting kit, here's a random pick I got from a Jp site:
[IMG]http://image.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/i/j/autoweb_wts-hub-unit-system[/IMG]

I wont make anything from it so it's better to buy them locally from AutoTechnik thats if the mature ones are too much:
[URL="http://www.autotechnik.com.au/index.php?option=com_autotechnik&p=detail&cid=316"]http://www.autotechnik.com.au/index.php?option=com_autotechnik&p=detail&cid=316[/URL]
[IMG]http://www.autotechnik.com.au/images/wts_hub_image.jpg[/IMG]

HKS200 13-04-2011 03:55 PM

ahh thanks for that wayne, yeah I'd rather the actual late model hubs as I take my car to the track and such, don't really trust spacers haha. Just the picture of the mature items didn't look like spacers so thought I'd ask.

cheers

trainwrex 13-04-2011 04:02 PM

Just suck it up mate and do the conversion...

everything else is just an adapater as the money is also in the bearings..

JDM_STYLE 13-04-2011 04:03 PM

[QUOTE=HKS200;555644]ahh thanks for that wayne, yeah I'd rather the actual late model hubs as I take my car to the track and such, don't really trust spacers haha. Just the picture of the mature items didn't look like spacers so thought I'd ask.

cheers[/QUOTE]

No worries mate, totally understand.

Yeah they definitely just bolt onto you current hubs like the KICS ones, just slightly differ design (so I've been told).

HKS200 13-04-2011 04:16 PM

tino: yeah I totally understand, just had a fall out with 6 gun in the US so i'm not able to get the ABS tone ring spacer to enable the abs to function properly once I install the later model hubs and knuckles. So searching for other avenues to do the same conversion. someone on rexnet said you just change the CV joint end on the front drive shafts? I know you changed everything because you went DCCD.

dtrally 13-04-2011 10:58 PM

The adapters in the first pic appear to be a new wheel flange to completely replace the original. So, press apart the bearing/flange/hub assembly, renew the bearing and press the new 114mm flange on. Everything else remains as per early hub. ie; driveshaft, ABS tone ring, hub, bearings etc. So no advantage as far as strength goes other than a stronger wheel and better choice of wheels. You would obviously need to use 114mm PCD brake rotors.

I'm only going by what I can see in that photo, but to me it does not look like a bolt on adapter as pictured below it. The main problem with those bolt on adapters is that they usually add at least the thickness of a wheel nut to the track, so most 114mm rims become too wide for the body. I did notice that those ones you pictured Wayne had a special low profile nut to reduce track increase to a minimal amount.

JDM_STYLE 13-04-2011 11:05 PM

Awesome thanks for that bit of info Dougie, I was just going on what japlish explanation was relayed to me regarding whether or not it was basically a hub spacer/pcd swap like the KICS one.

We need an "ASK DOUGIE" thread. hahahaha :D

So if the OP wants me to try again let me know. :icon_thum

dtrally 13-04-2011 11:07 PM

Ask him if it has a spline in it?
And if so, whether they do front and rear?
(they are different splines)

HKS200 14-04-2011 05:51 AM

ahh awesome input, yeah I'd be curious as well as they do look nothing like spacers.


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