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Viper76 02-03-2015 02:41 PM

Exhaust leak
 
Have an exhaust leak from around the drivers side head.

Got a new set of headers and UP pipe courtesy of Ultrex and changed it over but I'm concerned my problem is worse than just a shattered up pipe. The exhaust leak hasn't gone and sounds very tinny.

Got a couple of pics attached to see the mount area. This bolt in particular has gone on twice as far as the rest and still isn't tight. Have a feeling the head side is corroded quite badly and I'm just pulling the stud out with every turn.

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Satie12 03-03-2015 03:24 PM

Put another nut on that stud that keeps coming out/loose, tighten the nut up so it's against the existing bolt/nut then grab a socket an a bit of elbow grease and tighten up that bolt until the stud is in the right length and the nut is on tight, then just un-do that 2nd bolt and take it of.

Also chuck on heaps of high temp sealant!

Hope that helps champ


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joshrx 03-03-2015 03:35 PM

Don't use high temp sealant unless you want your car to stink like hot rubber for an hour after you turn it off. All you need is a genuine subaru gasket on each side, they are like 13 bucks each, and have a metal seal and composite flange.

If you're gonna drop your headers to change gaskets anyway, clean the threads and make sure the studs are threaded up far in the block. Don't use any anti seize unless it's very high temp (1000C+) or it will stink and smoke.

Tighten the bolts to (35Nm? check your years service manual) then after a few drives tighten them again. Alternate between cylinder banks when tightening.

Good luck :)

Viper76 03-03-2015 03:47 PM

See the gunk around the head? Is that high temp sealant? Looks to me like it was holding the studs in place which I'm hoping I'm wrong.

joshrx 03-03-2015 03:54 PM

ok wow, just seeing that. If that's the case, that could indicate a serious crack in the head, so it's probably causing the header flange to not sit correctly.

Viper76 03-03-2015 04:01 PM

I've got fresh gaskets on and 2 studs in particular won't tighten. You can see how much stud I've used and it was after I saw the green shit.

I'm going to drop the headers again and see if the head is ok. Helicoil it properly. Hope the head isn't completely screwed.

Satie12 03-03-2015 05:09 PM

Let us know how it goes mate, I'm interested to hear what it is!


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Viper76 03-03-2015 05:45 PM

I was hoping someone on here could tell me lol ... might have seen it before :)

Satie12 03-03-2015 10:04 PM

I did my up-pipe and headers, I didn't have any cracks or excessive sealant, but I one of my studs were coming loose an started un-screwing. I just put 2 bolts on and that fixed the stud from coming loose and just took of that 2nd bolt.
Hopefully the block/rocker covers aren't cracked man!


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Viper76 03-03-2015 10:21 PM

Exhaust leak
 
I'll check this weekend. Was pretty deflated after spending 2 whole days changing them over.

Did it by myself and had old nut problems. Rounded nuts etc. Every knuckle has a chunk out haha

dnbosiris 03-03-2015 11:20 PM

[QUOTE=Viper76;817897]. Every knuckle has a chunk out haha[/QUOTE]
Yep sounds like a Subaru! Good luck mate...

joshrx 04-03-2015 12:35 AM

I know that feel, exhaust work in general is a pain in the ass. luckily though only 1 of my head studs was partly fucked.. I had to replace nearly all the nuts though because of my cheap sockets and impatience.

Viper76 04-03-2015 07:42 AM

I went and brought all new nuts for every stud and bolt I took off. Turbo, exhaust and head nuts. Just easier and $10 in hardware.

Viper76 05-03-2015 06:54 PM

Well worst fears confirmed. They've tried to hold the head bolt in place using some sort of goo

Anyone with any ideas how I can fix this without taking the engine out?

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NueKaede 05-03-2015 06:57 PM

:s thats nasty

Viper76 05-03-2015 07:01 PM

Yep. Pretty filthy about it. Got the car 4000kms ago. Now I find this.

dnbosiris 05-03-2015 07:26 PM

Argh. Sorry to hear it man :( What can be done from here?

magic1 05-03-2015 07:33 PM

you could possibly sand blast it, mig weld it and retap the hole.

however, engine out to fit the problem properly.

Viper76 05-03-2015 07:36 PM

Only way to get the head out is engine out hey? If I could change the head without taking the engine out id be stoked but I don't have the gear to take it out and would need to pay. Know how much that'll cost me :(

joshrx 05-03-2015 07:36 PM

yeah i'm stumped, seems headers nuts have been overtightned or the stud was wound in too far and cracked it.

best bet get on the phone and start calling for info / quotes / replacement

joshrx 05-03-2015 07:38 PM

[QUOTE=Viper76;818103]Only way to get the head out is engine out hey? If I could change the head without taking the engine out id be stoked but I don't have the gear to take it out and would need to pay. Know how much that'll cost me :([/QUOTE]

how far off are you from needing head gaskets done? could do a 2 for 1 but get your wallet ready for a thrashing probably new head and head gaskets job 2k+

Viper76 05-03-2015 07:39 PM

Engine has 190K on it. When do they get done?

If it's 2K I'll invest in some nice heads :P

nick73 05-03-2015 07:55 PM

Give Bluestar or Barry at Paramount vehicle services a call.

dnbosiris 05-03-2015 07:58 PM

[QUOTE=Viper76;818106]Engine has 190K on it. When do they get done?

If it's 2K I'll invest in some nice heads :P[/QUOTE]

I've heard of heads being taken out with engine in but I don't know of anyone in Perth that would do it that way. Just a suggestion, it's actually not hard to pull an engine,i did it myself a few months ago and do not have a mechanical background. I just hired an engine crane off gumtree. If you can pull the engine yourself and drop it off at your workshop of choice, then pick it up and reinstall it yourself then you'll be saving around 1500 in labour.

dnbosiris 05-03-2015 07:59 PM

[QUOTE=nick73;818108]Give Bluestar or Barry at Paramount vehicle services a call.[/QUOTE]

Or mick at japline :thumbup:

joshrx 05-03-2015 08:10 PM

DIY route does depend if you can support that effort - e.g. tools, mechanically minded etc.. and space with a solid, flat concrete floor to use the engine crane.

for 190k kms, if the head gaskets haven't been done before it's probably about time.

make an informed decision, make sure they know the head is cracked at the exhaust side and what options are available. repair or new, either way prob be expensive.

Viper76 05-03-2015 08:13 PM

father n law is a mechanic and has a crane so might be a job for him.

I am mechanically minded and don't have an issue getting dirty and really don't have the cash to hand over atm. Just spent $2500 on the piece of shit.

dnbosiris 05-03-2015 11:55 PM

[QUOTE=Viper76;818116]father n law is a mechanic and has a crane so might be a job for him.

I am mechanically minded and don't have an issue getting dirty and really don't have the cash to hand over atm. Just spent $2500 on the piece of shit.[/QUOTE]

you are the perfect candidate for a DIY engine pull :P
hit me up if you have any questions

Viper76 06-03-2015 06:30 PM

Well I've got a temporary fix for an unknown time period. Once I get shit sorted, order some heads etc I can then sort taking the engine out for a real fix.

After speaking to a few of the mechanics at work I purchased some epoxy and maniseal.

Took the stud out and cleaned it up a bit, I then epoxied the stud and stuck it back in. 45 mins I bolted everything back up with maniseal on the gaskets and so far so good. 15 minute drive and no exhaust leak noise.

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matto20v 07-03-2015 03:54 AM

Can the headers be welded onto the head (just on that exhaust port)?

Skdtme 07-03-2015 07:11 AM

No they cant. Steel to ali doesnt work.

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