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muggz 14-09-2007 11:01 AM

McLaren excluded from F1 Championship for spying...
 
Well Ferrari are the provisional Constructors championships after McLaren was excluded for stealing technical data from the Fezza.. sad day in motorsport.

[URL=http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2007/9/6767.html]Formula 1 - McLaren excluded form Constructors championship[/URL]

[B]Statement from Ron Dennis (team principal - McLaren)[/B]
[QUOTE]Full statement from Ron Dennis:

"The most important thing is that we will be going motor racing this weekend, the rest of the season and every season. This means that our drivers can continue to compete for the World Championship. However having been at the hearing today I do not accept that we deserved to be penalised in this way.

"Today's evidence given to the FIA by our drivers, engineers and staff clearly demonstrated that we did not use any leaked information to gain a competitive advantage.

"Much has been made in the press and at the hearing today of emails and text messages to and from our drivers. The World Motorsport Council received statements from Fernando Alonso, Lewis Hamilton and Pedro de la Rosa stating categorically that no Ferrari information had been used by McLaren and that they had not passed any confidential data to the team.

"The entire engineering team in excess of 140 people provided statements to the FIA affirming that they had never received or used the Ferrari information.

"We have never denied that the information from Ferrari was in the personal possession of one of our employees at his home. The issue is: was this information used by McLaren? This is not the case and has not been proven today.

"We are also continually asked if McLaren didn't use the information, what was the reason for Stepney and Coughlan collecting all this data about Ferrari? We can only speculate as neither Coughlan nor Stepney gave evidence at today's hearing, but we do know that they were both seeking employment with other teams, as already confirmed by both Honda and Toyota.

"There will be no issue for the 2008 season as we have not at any stage used any intellectual property of any other team.

"We have got the best drivers and the best car and we intend to win the World Championship."[/QUOTE]

[B]....and from Ferrari:[/B]
[QUOTE]Ferrari said they were happy that the “truth had emerged” following Thursday’s decision by the FIA’s World Motor Sport Council to strip McLaren of constructors’ point and heavily fine them for possessing confidential data belonging to the Italian team.

“Ferrari acknowledges the decision of the FIA to sanction Vodafone McLaren Mercedes for its breach of Article 151c of the International Sporting Code,” said a Ferrari statement.

“In light of new evidence, facts and behaviour of an extremely serious nature and grossly prejudicial to the interest of the sport have been further demonstrated.

“Ferrari is satisfied that the truth has now emerged.”[/QUOTE]

Thodd 14-09-2007 11:03 AM

pwnd.

Now I wonder if the money from that fine will go to a good cause?

Mister Two 14-09-2007 11:05 AM

I thought they were just fined $100Million?

According to this anyway...
[url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070913/ap_on_sp_au_ra_ne/car_f1_spy_case[/url]

But to be excluded also.... harsh but I guess its justified.

muggz 14-09-2007 11:09 AM

umm yesh.. dont believe the 'third party' news feeds... my link is from the Official F1 site and its noted that the points are forfeited immediately. The drivers wont be affected though, so the race is on for Drivers Championship honours :D

WRP10 14-09-2007 11:09 AM

Cheeky beggars!

phizzle 14-09-2007 11:17 AM

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MKVIGTI 14-09-2007 11:26 AM

[QUOTE=muggz]umm yesh.. dont believe the 'third party' news feeds... my link is from the Official F1 site and its noted that the points are forfeited immediately. The drivers wont be affected though, so the race is on for Drivers Championship honours :D[/QUOTE]

It does make you wonder. Mclaren are convicted of of spying and using that data to field an illegal car ( although how much if any is ferrari technology is debatable ) and are punished for it.

The drivers who are competing in that so called illegal car are allowed to keep all their points AND continue racing it. :confused: :confused: :confused:

ONLY IN FORMULA 1

I think it is all a load of horse shit anyway. Look at how many cars have started sprouting front wings similar to mclarens with the hoop or those that tried the cow horns last year.

They all copy each other. Get over it.

BrennyV 14-09-2007 11:37 AM

its a shame that now poor lewis and alonso have to race for a team that has done the dirty! 2 great racers! and a stupid move by there team :/

NIX WRX 14-09-2007 11:38 AM

Did Dr. Evil lay down that verdict?

100... MILLION... DOLLARS!!!!! Mwahahahahahaha

whatever

joeman 14-09-2007 11:46 AM

Cant wait for Stepney to spill his guts. FIA=Ferrari.
Just because arent winning, they go cry foul. If they hadnt broken their wind tunnel, and were winning the championships, would they have done the same?


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