Motorplex Helmet Standards
Went to the Plex on the bike last night ( finished with a 10.887 @ 131 so was a good night ). Reckon I was about the middle of the runners getting scrutinized and 15 had already been thrown out for non complying helmets.
Cut and pasted directly from the motorplex web site and I suggest going to one of the Whoop Ass Wed event pages and printing out a copy to taking it with you. I am sure some of them don't know there own ( ANDRA ) standards. [QUOTE]If your helmet is over 12 years old then it is probably not acceptable for use on the Drag Strip. Look for the following markings to check if your helmet is ok to use for racing. Sometimes the label is under the padding inside the helmet. Full Face or Open Face Helmets bearing any of these standards are acceptable; SNELL SA 2000, SA 2005, SFI 31.2 (US) SNELL M 2000, M2005, SFI 41.2 (US) BS 6658-85 Type A (British) SNELL 2000/2005 - SFI 31.1 (US) BS 6658-1985 Type A/FR (British) AS/NZS 1698/2006 (AS/NZS 1698)[/QUOTE] AS 1698 by itself is no longer acceptable. Sux if it is a brand new helmet that has been on the shelf for a while. If there are no other standards then it must have the AS/NZS 1698/2006 on it. If it has the AS 1698 & any of the other standards in the list above show them the print out, stand your ground and tell them to get fucked. Don't expect them to find it either. Find it first and straight out tell them it complies with XXX standard and here's the sticker/label Some of these standards will be a sticker on the shell inside the lining or a label sown into the lining so you may have to pull it apart for a good look. If your helmet complies then don't take their shit but if it doesn't don't waste their time trying. It is just putting them in a bad mood for everyone in the line behind you. Does one of the mods want to sticky this till they change their minds again next year? |
What about FIA standard race helmets?
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If it isn't in that list you are wasting your time!!!
Stupid I know that you can run with an open face with the right sticker but a brand new full face with the old AS 1698 standard is unsafe :confused: :confused: :confused: All comes down to public liability and some office jockey with no clue making decisions. |
.....so getting a good sticker maker to 'arrange' a compliant sticker would be just as effective given the mental capacity of the scrutineers at the plex.
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[QUOTE=JME].....so getting a good sticker maker to 'arrange' a compliant sticker would be just as effective given the mental capacity of the scrutineers at the plex.[/QUOTE]
No Doubt. GOOD LUCK :D :D :D |
Next they'll be looking to inspect your Flux Capacitor! :rolleyes:
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[QUOTE=JME]What about FIA standard race helmets?[/QUOTE]
The F.I.A. don't have their own standard. They specify the relevant Snell or ECE standard. ANDRA are in bed with the NHRA, they love US standard and the Jap helmet makers can get fkd. I have an $800 Kevlar composite Arai international standard rally helmet (ECE 22-03) that is accepable for Targa but unacceptable for street drags, go figure. :rolleyes: Your Stilo will be Snell approved. |
If you wanted to really stick it up the andra clowns, and your helmet while being an older one, but still compliant to FIA regs, print the FIa page and show it to the complaining scrute, given that ANDRA still fall under FIA ruling, the higher bodies rules should overturn whatever ccrap andra are trying to push..
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[QUOTE=BlackSTi]Went to the Plex on the bike last night ( finished with a 10.887 @ 131 so was a good night ). Reckon I was about the middle of the runners getting scrutinized and 15 had already been thrown out for non complying helmets.
Cut and pasted directly from the motorplex web site and I suggest going to one of the Whoop Ass Wed event pages and printing out a copy to taking it with you. I am sure some of them don't know there own ( ANDRA ) standards. AS 1698 by itself is no longer acceptable. Sux if it is a brand new helmet that has been on the shelf for a while. If there are no other standards then it must have the AS/NZS 1698/2006 on it. If it has the AS 1698 & any of the other standards in the list above show them the print out, stand your ground and tell them to get fucked. Don't expect them to find it either. Find it first and straight out tell them it complies with XXX standard and here's the sticker/label Some of these standards will be a sticker on the shell inside the lining or a label sown into the lining so you may have to pull it apart for a good look. If your helmet complies then don't take their shit but if it doesn't don't waste their time trying. It is just putting them in a bad mood for everyone in the line behind you. Does one of the mods want to sticky this till they change their minds again next year?[/QUOTE] Was that you and the blue and white Gixer? If so I was talking to you at the gate just as I was leaving!!!! Well pissed off |
When my young bloke bought a Helmet in Bali it had no stickers so we managed to remove the sticker off a $12 bike helmet & put it on, this was about 4yrs ago but I might check Kmart & see if the stickers have any of the above numbers on them as my helmet is only 12mths old & I don't see why I should change it, fine for a bike but not inside a bloody car.
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Nah that was probably Jackerz (PSB) I'm the Matt black Gixxer 750 K7
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ANDRA dont answer to CAMS so I seriously doubt any FIA reg would supersede an ANDRA rule.
[QUOTE=Denver]If you wanted to really stick it up the andra clowns, and your helmet while being an older one, but still compliant to FIA regs, print the FIa page and show it to the complaining scrute, given that ANDRA still fall under FIA ruling, the higher bodies rules should overturn whatever ccrap andra are trying to push..[/QUOTE] |
[QUOTE=JMAX]ANDRA dont answer to CAMS so I seriously doubt any FIA reg would supersede an ANDRA rule.[/QUOTE]
ANDRA falls under the FIA drag racing comission according to the andrea rule book i have here, which if the FIA ruling is different to the ANDRA one, you'd assume you could use the FIA rules over that of andra's.. |
Interesting theory, but I don't think it's going to happen down there.
By example if you ran a F1 car at the drags would you be exempt from fitting a parachute? Would you have to remove your wheel weights? lol. Dealing with scrutineers from any form of motorsport is a bit like taking your car over the pits. Sometimes it's easier to just do what they want, you'll only antagonise them if you point out their obvious chromosomal deficiencies. |
No open face helmet now either I think
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I was told that my '08 stilo wrc fia helmet didn't meet their standards. then the scrutineer went and spoke to the cheif scrutineer and he said the numbers were good, but it needed to be full face.
I can see for andra licenced 10.99 and below, or open cars that this is a fair call... but for any one else it's just silly! good enough for the fia to let you belt down dirt roads at 200+k lined by trees, edged by cliffs and with occasional wildlife running loose, But not good enough to travel 400m on a straight sealed surface. |
[QUOTE=SCOOTER]No open face helmet now either I think[/QUOTE]
Crap. Couple of harley fellas there Wed night with the standard matt black wife beaters on. |
The scrutineer I talked to last Wed said they will be banning open face helmets in the next few weeks and to check the site before I go down next to see if the ban had been applied yet.
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Guess more people will just hit the illegal drags now, since this is becoming all too hard or expensive for those who just want to have a quick fang.
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[QUOTE=Kato]Guess more people will just hit the illegal drags now, since this is becoming all too hard or expensive for those who just want to have a quick fang.[/QUOTE]
Think your onto something. Increase government funding to turf a few extras to increase the instances of people being hoon lawed. It's all one great conspiricy propagated by Today Tonight to give them some crap to brainwash the masses :D :D :D |
sorry for the gravedig
but looking to race at WAW and have an old AGV Valentino Rossi AS1698 motorbike helmet fullface. Bought this when he was racing 250s lol How strict are they recently with the helmet standards? Will they check? |
As long as it has an Aussie standards sticker you'll be fine. I had a British one which had the British standards sticker which is apparently a more stringent standard but I wasn't allowed to race with that and had to borrow one with an Aussie Standards sticker.
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[QUOTE=gorotsuki69;849001]sorry for the gravedig
but looking to race at WAW and have an old AGV Valentino Rossi AS1698 motorbike helmet fullface. Bought this when he was racing 250s lol How strict are they recently with the helmet standards? Will they check?[/QUOTE] Yes they will check but as long as it's in good condition (ie no chips & scratches) AS1698 is fine... |
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