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Old 26-03-2009, 10:22 AM
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So it can be his hobbie.. right? He doesn't advertise - customers come from friends of friends or recommendations.

It's similar to saying 'if your mate asked you to come around to his house to clean up his house or fix his car, or fix his computer, and he'll pay you ....say 100 bucks for it, would you go to the tax company and declare it.'

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Old 26-03-2009, 10:30 AM
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It's similar to saying 'if your mate asked you to come around to his house to clean up his house or fix his car, or fix his computer, and he'll pay you ....say 100 bucks for it, would you go to the tax company and declare it.'
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Old 26-03-2009, 10:31 AM
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Well then, I guess he is a business. But for everyone here who has a second/third job, if you were to do private jobs (as most private jobs, people prefer cash jobs - tradies, mechs, etc) would you be an angel and tell the tax dept how much you really made? Or would you slip that into your pockets?
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If you did a private job, would you declare it?

Btw, he doesn't have a business number or anything, as I said, he worked FOR a tint, car detailer place and while he's got the experience, he said he might as well use it.

So it can be his hobbie.. right? He doesn't advertise - customers come from friends of friends or recommendations.

It's similar to saying 'if your mate asked you to come around to his house to clean up his house or fix his car, or fix his computer, and he'll pay you ....say 100 bucks for it, would you go to the tax company and declare it.'
Completely different scenario. For a start off $100 is a long way under the amount you need to earn before declaring tax or GST.

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Well then, I guess he is a business. But for everyone here who has a second/third job, if you were to do private jobs (as most private jobs, people prefer cash jobs - tradies, mechs, etc) would you be an angel and tell the tax dept how much you really made? Or would you slip that into your pockets?
Again there is a difference between taking $100 from a mate to put some brake pads in his car and taking $100 every single day for a repetition of tasks earning a substantial amount above the point he should have declared his income.
If this was something he was doing because he enjoys it and is just puttng his hard earned skills to good use then I'm sure he would not mind reducing his fee's to the point he earns below the tax threshold for a 2nd income.

What you...sorry your mate...is doing is down right illegal and I sincerely hope the ATO catches up with him. Why should he not have to pay tax when the rest of us do?
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Old 26-03-2009, 11:23 AM
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Get a second job then find out if you like being taxed a shitload mate.

Again, I'm NOT the one that is doing this.. sif I have the time, im a girl, 19, a full time student, and parttime/casual video ezy in Joondanna, how am I suppose to keep up making this for a living.

He does pay his taxes, not on his second job, i guess majority of tradies are doing it illegal as they prefer doing cash jobs - even though some of them write a reciept, of course they write it down lower than what you actually pay them.

Oh wells. i guess all the tradies are lined up to catch up with the ATO as well.
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Old 26-03-2009, 11:25 AM
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haha shouldnt have said you're a girl, this thread may get seedier :P

one thing you might suggest to him - invest the money? Or buy heaps of gift vouchers :P
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Old 26-03-2009, 11:34 AM
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Get a second job then find out if you like being taxed a shitload mate.

Again, I'm NOT the one that is doing this.. sif I have the time, im a girl, 19, a full time student, and parttime/casual video ezy in Joondanna, how am I suppose to keep up making this for a living.

He does pay his taxes, not on his second job, i guess majority of tradies are doing it illegal as they prefer doing cash jobs - even though some of them write a reciept, of course they write it down lower than what you actually pay them.

Oh wells. i guess all the tradies are lined up to catch up with the ATO as well.
Tax is a fact of life. You will be taxed more per pay being a second job, but it will be corrected at the end of the taxation year.

By collecting a large amount of regular cash jobs all they are doing is screwing everyone else. $24k per year cash is a fuck load of money to have as a 'little bonus'. It's not a $100 to help someone out (i.e. a gift). This is a business and if they are caught (good probability they will) they will face massive tax bills and whinge on Today Tonight.

Want the risk of being caught. Don't declare it.

Want to sleep at night knowing everything is fine. Declare it.

As has been said a lot of very powerful and savvy people are in jail for tax avoidance. This is nothing different.
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Old 26-03-2009, 11:35 AM
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I thought having wrx_baby is somewhat more of a girls nickname rather then a guy having it, oh wells.
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Old 26-03-2009, 11:37 AM
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forgot to mention, i've never seen a girl car detail and car tint for extra money..lol doesn't fit into the stereotype now does it.lol
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Old 26-03-2009, 11:55 AM
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you could be wrong, i don't see how car detailing doesn't fit into the stereotype there is a girl across my workplace from me who details cars so yeah.

Not being sexist tho, detailing is just like cleaning amirite?
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