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Elrico · #31 15-09-2009, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ImPreSiV

^^ what you could do is go to the local cop shop in that area, say you saw this accident, on this day, and if you are needed for any witness statements, or anything, here's how to contact you... then you can sleep easy at night

There was a guy that stopped and rendered first aid, before i got to park up so i think he;'d of stayed with the guy till paramedics arrived. So he'd of been able to give a statement. Its not about sleeping easy, i cant really sleep as it is without that problem, its just for future refrence i spose.

ImPreSiV · #32 15-09-2009, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by daveygravey

oh well not ur problem... Lol

thats a real smart thing to say. I hope someone never says that to you when you or someone you love is close to death, and could have rendered first aid, but decided it 'wasn't their problem'

Elrico · #33 15-09-2009, 08:36 PM

I think Davey was having a dig, well i hope so. If someone doesnt have the human decency to help someone that is in dire need, well, im sure it'll be a case of swings and roundabouts.

There was a thead on rexnet with a guy that stole a harley. Pranged it, got stuck on a star picket through the shoulder i think it was, the bike owner found him, punched him in the face, took his wallet and rode off..........

Jezza · #34 15-09-2009, 08:48 PM

If a person is unconscious or unresponsive, you do not need consent to start first aid - its only when they're conscious etc.

Once a person starts to administer first aid/CPR/EAR etc, they cant stop. This means if you arent physically capable to continue CPR until the ambo's arrive - you are quite open to prosecution!
For example - If you try to save some guy's life but cant keep doing the CPR for the 30min it takes for ambo's to get there, you can get sued.
Not a good thing when you need to stop and think before going to someone's aid.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elrico

There was a thead on rexnet with a guy that stole a harley. Pranged it, got stuck on a star picket through the shoulder i think it was, the bike owner found him, punched him in the face, took his wallet and rode off..........

Thats karma!!

daveygravey · #35 16-09-2009, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ImPreSiV

thats a real smart thing to say. I hope someone never says that to you when you or someone you love is close to death, and could have rendered first aid, but decided it 'wasn't their problem'

bud, if you read my other post you will see exactly what i think, i totally disagree with that section about ITS NOT YOUR DUTY AND YOU DONT NEED TO HELP...

if someone needs first aid then they should get it asap...

Kato · #36 16-09-2009, 08:03 AM

So no one has any actual proof of people being sued. As thought, its just American hearsay...

trainwrex · #37 16-09-2009, 08:21 AM

i agree with jonno.. heresay bullshit... there has not been a precedent in australia nor will there be one..

theprotest · #38 16-09-2009, 08:55 AM

Hi,

Taken from acutefirstaid.com.au

Quote:

“Can I be sued for doing first aid?”

Using the concept of 'reasonableness', there are no documented cases in Australia where any first
aider has been successfully sued after giving emergency first aid. Acting reasonably in a CPR situation means that you would be expected to establish that the person was unconscious, not breathing and had no pulse before commencing CPR.

A reasonable person would not start CPR on someone who had merely fainted or someone that was acting in a first aid course. Furthermore, a reasonable person is not expected to perform miracles. Commonsense and a reasonable degree of skill are all that the law would require under such emergency circumstances. Moreover, a person who needs CPR will be unconscious, will not be breathing and will have no pulse. This person will die if appropriate medical care, including CPR, is not administered. Remember, it is likely that the person will be a spouse or a close relative. In summary, you can not be held legally responsible for death or injury as a result of your intervention provided you act reasonably, carefully and in good faith at all times.

(Source: Queensland Dept of Emergency Services)

Cheers,
Nik

haydn_wolf · #39 16-09-2009, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by colonel wrx

If a person is unconscious or unresponsive, you do not need consent to start first aid - its only when they're conscious etc.

Once a person starts to administer first aid/CPR/EAR etc, they cant stop. This means if you arent physically capable to continue CPR until the ambo's arrive - you are quite open to prosecution!
For example - If you try to save some guy's life but cant keep doing the CPR for the 30min it takes for ambo's to get there, you can get sued.
Not a good thing when you need to stop and think before going to someone's aid.

I disagree, if you are placed in that situation you should do everything you can to save that person's life. Its called first aid for a reason. If they had called it "first life saving" then I would see where you are coming from. But with CPR you can never tell how long you may need to go for, it could be 3 minutes or 20. In first aid training they often teach you how to work with partners to make it easier.

woobla · #40 16-09-2009, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ImPreSiV

There is no legal obligation to stop and help if you are not involved in a crash

That is the crux of the argument. Thank you for posting that. Good find, interesting read.

Also shits me how all these Americanisms find there way into the argument. This forum is especially bad.

No legal obligation, but fuck If I saw some poor bastard bleeding out on the road I would certainly help him to the best of my ability. If he tries to sue me later, good fucking luck, plenty of legal protections

.

It is like if you see a woman being harassed by a stinking abo on the train I would hope someone would get up and do something. I certainly would.

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