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Jaded 13-06-2006 02:53 PM

Question bout Insurance Commision (3rd party injury insurance)
 
Has anyone here been involved in a crash and made a claim from the Insurance Commision of WA ?

Did you get a pay out and if so.. how bad were injuries and what sort of payout did you get ?

I have a claim in progress I just have no idea of what (if any) sort of pay out to expect...

any help appreciated
Cheers
Tara

EVL WRX 13-06-2006 03:42 PM

Mate of mine has been waiting for his claim to be 'finalised' for over 4 years now.... He has back and neck injuries that require weekly visits to chiro/physio... Dont' think he's getting much considering the pain and suffering he has/is going through (think around $30k)....

Bakks 13-06-2006 03:46 PM

A friend of mine was passenger in a car her ex bf was driving. Accident was his fault, she got $35k or so as the accident ruined her dancing "career" :rolleyes: Injuries were hardly extensive.

Jaded 13-06-2006 05:02 PM

[QUOTE=EVL WRX]Mate of mine has been waiting for his claim to be 'finalised' for over 4 years now.... He has back and neck injuries that require weekly visits to chiro/physio... Dont' think he's getting much considering the pain and suffering he has/is going through (think around $30k)....[/QUOTE]


Yeah I have a friend with a similar deal. The way I understand it.. they dont finalise the amount until you have made a "complete recovery".. from your injuries. My whiplash etc has all healed and the panick attacks have stopped.. just wondering what to expect.. if anything..

Did your friends use lawyers or jsut fill out the forms and wait for an offer ?

scary 13-06-2006 05:26 PM

As with all compensation you will not even be considered for payout until you have a clearance form a doctor. ie if you have whiplash from a physio if you consulted one and for Panic attacks a shrink.

And sorry if it's all over by now I wouldn't be expecting too much of a payout as your suffering has been minimal in their eyes.

If you haven't seeked professional advice ie Doctors you have got little to no chance.

To put it in perspective I saw Dr's for 6 years when I lost part of a finger until I got clearance and an official disabiltity rating, then you get the payout. (and it's not much) you want the big bucks and want to increase the burden on vehicle registration (this is where you pay compulsory 3rd party) go and find an ambulance chaser lawyer and they will tell you how too play it up.

Jaded 13-06-2006 07:05 PM

[QUOTE=scary]As with all compensation you will not even be considered for payout until you have a clearance form a doctor. ie if you have whiplash from a physio if you consulted one and for Panic attacks a shrink.

And sorry if it's all over by now I wouldn't be expecting too much of a payout as your suffering has been minimal in their eyes.

If you haven't seeked professional advice ie Doctors you have got little to no chance.

To put it in perspective I saw Dr's for 6 years when I lost part of a finger until I got clearance and an official disabiltity rating, then you get the payout. (and it's not much) you want the big bucks and want to increase the burden on vehicle registration (this is where you pay compulsory 3rd party) go and find an ambulance chaser lawyer and they will tell you how too play it up.[/QUOTE]


lol I like how you are implying im trying to blow things out of proportion to get more money.. :confused:

Of course I went to docs.. event spent the night in hospital etc...

i was just told by someone that I would get a payout and Im trying to confirm if thats likely or not. thankyou so much for your constructive and supportive comments :D

Tara

Adz 13-06-2006 08:12 PM

I went through all this a few years back.

I totalled 2 years worth of physio/medication/medical expenses. Do see a lawyer. Whatever the insurance company offers you in compensation - the government gets the first $11500 on all whiplash claims. This was to reduce the number of non-legitimate claims.

Seeing a fairly good lawyer will definitely help out. In my case, I got a fair bit through 'loss of opportunity' in regards to sport which i was doing at a professional level at the time. Medical bills dont really play a part, nor does time off work, unless it amounts to a significant figure.

A lawyer will normally want you to see an independant docter/specialist, as will the insurance company anyways.

See a lawyer, take their advice and go from there.

Adz

skeptic 13-06-2006 09:29 PM

I agree with Adz, after being involved in an accident when I was 17 it took over 3 years to get compensation.

Depending on your injuries of course.. best advice, get a (good) lawyer because you will get offered the bare minimum to start off with, hoping that you'll accept that and disappear. :)

Takes time unfortunately, just be prepared to stick it out!

d_generate 14-06-2006 12:25 AM

Do yourself a favour, if you can forget it........forget it. I wish I had. I have a chunk out of my neck, half a dead r/hand & more, I spent 6 yrs going through hell with a so called "good" lawyer who's bill was well over $100,000 & I've spent the last 2 years with another lawyer trying to get back the over $50,000 he overcharged me. Thank you MR P O'hallo...NOT. If you have a minor psychological problem now it will be MUCH worse in 4 - 6 years.
Just some friendly advice.......take it or leave it.

scary 14-06-2006 07:56 AM

[QUOTE=Jaded]lol I like how you are implying im trying to blow things out of proportion to get more money.. :confused:

Of course I went to docs.. event spent the night in hospital etc...

i was just told by someone that I would get a payout and Im trying to confirm if thats likely or not. thankyou so much for your constructive and supportive comments :D

Tara[/QUOTE]

Sorry Tara just started ranting and couldn't find the off switch.

Believe it or not what I was trying to point out is unless you have a legitimate claim don't bother or be prepared for a VERY long and drawn out process where the only people who win are ambulance chasing lawyers!

Jaded 14-06-2006 09:18 AM

Think ill prolly just have to write the whole idea of getting any money off *sigh*

gotta love it when ur totally faultless in an accident and its you who loses money. :mad:

silver02Sti 14-06-2006 05:11 PM

sounds like you definately have a legitimate claim and you wll receive compensation for costs/losses if you play the game correctly.

you have to have a lawyer - go to see one. They can let you know if you have a case and will start proceedings if you wish (attending a gp for a report etc). They will take out there fee when you settle and they can only charge you up to $10 000 for this type of claim.

It is essential that you get and keep all copies of reports (police report, doctors, physios, physciatrists, lawyers, this includes all receipts for your costs incurred due to the accident) Do not rely on your lawyer to do this for you.

Generally these things last for about four years so be patient. This is quite important as you may think you have recovered but you may notice pains and aches etc as time goes by....tell your gp about these and make sure you get him to record it in the report.

REPORTS = evidence = compensation

there are lots of traps for young players but if you persist with your legitimate claim you will be compensated

d_generate 15-06-2006 12:39 AM

[QUOTE=silver02Sti]sounds like you definately have a legitimate claim and you wll receive compensation for costs/losses if you play the game correctly.

you have to have a lawyer - go to see one. They can let you know if you have a case and will start proceedings if you wish (attending a gp for a report etc). They will take out there fee when you settle and they can only charge you up to $10 000 for this type of claim.

It is essential that you get and keep all copies of reports (police report, doctors, physios, physciatrists, lawyers, this includes all receipts for your costs incurred due to the accident) Do not rely on your lawyer to do this for you.

Generally these things last for about four years so be patient. This is quite important as you may think you have recovered but you may notice pains and aches etc as time goes by....tell your gp about these and make sure you get him to record it in the report.

REPORTS = evidence = compensation

there are lots of traps for young players but if you persist with your legitimate claim you will be compensated[/QUOTE]

Don't know where you get your facts from but you are WRONG, my photocopying bill alone was over $1,200 and if you think you are going to get a lawyer to work for 4 years for $10,000 you are living on cloud kukoo land.
There are limits they are supposed to charge but they ignore that, then baristers reports come into it & you pay for your own medical & shrink reports ( usually between $800 & $1,200 ea ), Then the MVIT will shop you from one insurance quack to another & they are all lying bastards.
Then when you are getting close to going to court the lying thieving shark fuck like the one I had might demand you fork out $50,000 or he will not continue your case because he has kids & a mortgage to pay.
The MVIT will employ the biggest pricks on earth to fight you because they have unlimited funds, yes from the third party insurance you pay on your rego.
What you must to do is get a case number from the MVIT so they pay all medical & pharmacy bills but if you are back at work full time, you have no economical loss. It will more than likely cost you much more than you will be offered & even that will take a minimum of two years.
I was lucky, I had X Rays to prove I had damage & they admitted 100% liability. If you have soft tissue damage its off to the shrinks till they find one who is willing to stand up in court to say it's all in your head.

silver02Sti 15-06-2006 07:54 AM

mmmm.....fiesty

I can tell you have been thru the experience as you appear to be a little bit bitter about the situation d generate. Maybe you werent so d generate before your experience with the lovable rogues of the legal, insurance and medical world. People do tend to lose their souls during the experience.

You have been ripped off by your lawyer my friend as they are definately capped at $10 000 (which can work for and against you).

As I said you have to play the game. You definately need to do your research and play hardball or you will be eaten alive (which happens to most people as they believe there lawyer will do all the work for them - WRONG).

By the way I do not get my info from cookoo land degenerate I get it from the land of defeating lawyers and insurance companies and receiving very large amounts of $$$$$'s.

TIP: NEVER TRUST A LAWYER

skeptic 15-06-2006 07:57 AM

Mate, sounds like you got stooped by your lawyer big time - maybe he spotted another grumpy old man.

silver02Sti's post was not wrong, not everyone has a case like yours so don't be so quick to jump to conclusions and go off on a rant. My lawyer cost less than $10k and he spent over 3 years before the matter was closed.

d_generate 15-06-2006 11:21 AM

[QUOTE=silver02Sti]mmmm.....fiesty

I can tell you have been thru the experience as you appear to be a little bit bitter about the situation d generate. Maybe you werent so d generate before your experience with the lovable rogues of the legal, insurance and medical world. People do tend to lose their souls during the experience.

You have been ripped off by your lawyer my friend as they are definately capped at $10 000 (which can work for and against you).

As I said you have to play the game. You definately need to do your research and play hardball or you will be eaten alive (which happens to most people as they believe there lawyer will do all the work for them - WRONG).

By the way I do not get my info from cookoo land degenerate I get it from the land of defeating lawyers and insurance companies and receiving very large amounts of $$$$$'s.

TIP: NEVER TRUST A LAWYER[/QUOTE]
First off I've got better things to do than go around ripping off insurance companies, it just makes everyone else's premiums higher.
I've just had my "lawyer only" bill taxed, do you know what TAXING means? ( that's when the big boys get involved ) at $36,000. So please show me in writing where it "officially" says there is a cap of $10,000 on lawyers expenses for Motor Vehical claims. You may be talking about "workers comp" which is a totally different kettle of fish.
And no mate, apart from when it comes to lawyers I'm as happy as a pig in shit, I just don't suffer fools lightly.
I'm just trying to give the girl a heads up on what she may run into, I don't particularly give a rats arse one way or the other how she handles it, it's just a warning on what can & does happen.

silver02Sti 15-06-2006 11:55 AM

no wonder you got ripped off you are a fuckn idiot

Jaded 15-06-2006 12:12 PM

now now kids... no need to go name calling

thanks everyone for sharing your experiences.. Im not going to take it further.. I have enough stress on my plate and its just not worth it.

peace out
-Tara

d_generate 15-06-2006 02:43 PM

[QUOTE=silver02Sti]no wonder you got ripped off you are a fuckn idiot[/QUOTE]
Ok Compo King, put your money where your mouth is & prove your wild claim, just scan where it says there is a $10,000 limit on MV charges by lawyers & put it here, not too hard for a self taught Lawyer like yourself is it?
Oh & by the way Compo King, I may have been overcharged but I "will" get it back ( it's just unfortunate they get their hands on your settlement cheque before you do & they hope you won't take it any further )
I settled for a lot more than you are worth, so I have all the time in the world to wait, cos the longer it takes him the worse he looks, in fact there are that many cases against him, there is a good chance he will be struck off.
Unlike you who are right up there on all matters pertaining to law & lawyers I just went with someone the bar association recomended, as I dont make a living out of ripping people off like you, I knew fuck all about these parasites.
P.S. Did you start on old ladies before you worked your way up to insurance companies?
P.P.S. What next, more name calling, possible threats of violence, ooooh. Fucking Child.

Jaded 15-06-2006 03:04 PM

always gots to have the last word huh ?

maturity ++++ :cool:

let it go !~


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