Improving sound deadening qualities of external wall
 

Guys,

I'm looking at making a boundary wall at my place which faces a busy road.

Looking at options to building wall.

1. City of Vincent so what height can I go to? This is a 20m long wall going the side of the property and not the front.

2. Would a brick wall be an option single brick?

Or colour bond fence packed with insulation and then another sheet of colour bond on the other side?

What other recommendations can anyone think of.

Im sure the traffic wont mind your screaming and crying mate.

Double glazed windows and insulated cavity would be more effective.

I would go a brick wall route. Could only imagine how fuck a double colour bond fence stuffed with insulation would be after a few month in the weather.

So when does P-WRX get a home reno section?

[QUOTE=BLUES;814873]Double glazed windows and insulated cavity would be more effective.[/QUOTE]

What he said, not sure of the logistics of your house, but most of the places I've lived in limestone block retaining walls have worked fairly effectively.

gay as

Move to a culdesac

[QUOTE=RUSSGT;814869]Im sure the traffic wont mind your screaming and crying mate.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=American Dave;814879]gay as[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=XT43;814880]Move to a culdesac[/QUOTE]

homos

You should wait to see what im doing with my garage... wooden floors and glass ha

[QUOTE=BLUES;814873]Double glazed windows and insulated cavity would be more effective.[/QUOTE]


Single brick walls these 1900s house were built in ha The sound isnt a huge issue but im going to change the fence anyway hence the question.

Its also to do with more privacy, when strippers are over for poker nights :D.

[QUOTE=Tony;814875]I would go a brick wall route. Could only imagine how fuck a double colour bond fence stuffed with insulation would be after a few month in the weather.[/QUOTE]

Im looking at what options will give the best sound barrier as well as cost wise and fitting in the with landscape of the area.

Super 6 corrogated fence!

This thread is lacking in alcantara

[QUOTE=mARC;814885]This thread is lacking in alcantara[/QUOTE]

Thats what my poker table will be wrapped in with carbon fibre cupholders..

P-WRX home reno section

Put up the thickest heaviest highest solid wall you can. Vincent should allow 1.8m but ask for 2m. I think there are some about 2.2m high.
Stone > brick > limestone > thin cement, timber >colorbond

Any opening or say a gate will let in noise.

When the wall is up start growing creepers on both sides, especially on inside. On the outside creepers may provide a foothold for climbing over which you may or may not want.
In 10 years the creepers will give effective added height to wall.

Colorbond- may reduce some and may amplify other noise.

If you must live on a busy road, must be Italians who think in terms of generations so I put in the 10 years bit.

Thick limestone block wall 2m high with broken bottles cemented to the top, keeps cars, druggies and natives out then a 2m high colorbond electric gate with barbed wire on the inner edge.

Try Cutting Edge Kerbing, good prices 0459 951 971

You can buy colorbond foam sandwich panels - it's mostly used for patios etc
[url=http://stratco.com.au/products/verandahs_patios_carports/types/cooldek/cooldek.asp]Stratco Cooldek Roofing for Awnings, Carports, Pergolas, Verandahs and Patios[/url]
but this
[QUOTE=wrx oh oh;814902]Stone > brick > limestone > thin cement, timber >colorbond[/QUOTE]

Limecrete will be cheap & works, but height makes all the difference to sound as it reduces diffraction. Look also at having grass/plants/soft furnishings/alacantra flocked walls to minimise reflected noise.

[QUOTE=trainwrex;814883]
Its also to do with more privacy, when strippers are over for poker nights :D.



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Your mum lets you have strippers around?

Sweet.

probably most effective noise & cost wise would be a core filled concrete blockwork wall, strong as hell too

dynamat

[QUOTE=wrx oh oh;814902]P-WRX home reno section

Put up the thickest heaviest highest solid wall you can. Vincent should allow 1.8m but ask for 2m. I think there are some about 2.2m high.
Stone > brick > limestone > thin cement, timber >colorbond

Any opening or say a gate will let in noise.

When the wall is up start growing creepers on both sides, especially on inside. On the outside creepers may provide a foothold for climbing over which you may or may not want.
In 10 years the creepers will give effective added height to wall.

Colorbond- may reduce some and may amplify other noise.

If you must live on a busy road, must be Italians who think in terms of generations so I put in the 10 years bit.[/QUOTE]

Yeh others on that road are definately more than 2m. I would like 2.1m as a minimum to prevent road noise and for safety. High Road noise has been proven to be detrimental to health and sleeping patterns so i dont think the council would be able to object to heights.

In terms about sound blockage of material choice a double brick with cavity that is sealed off (just like double glazed windows) would be perfect but does not warrant the cost to get done.

I want to rid the asbestos fence that is there which is the primary concern.

[QUOTE=AWDmoke;814911]You can buy colorbond foam sandwich panels - it's mostly used for patios etc
[url=http://stratco.com.au/products/verandahs_patios_carports/types/cooldek/cooldek.asp]Stratco Cooldek Roofing for Awnings, Carports, Pergolas, Verandahs and Patios[/url]
but this


Limecrete will be cheap & works, but height makes all the difference to sound as it reduces diffraction. Look also at having grass/plants/soft furnishings/alacantra flocked walls to minimise reflected noise.[/QUOTE]

I wonder if that is more for temperature insulation rather than sound??

[QUOTE=XT43;814935]Your mum lets you have strippers around?

Sweet.[/QUOTE]

Im at your mums house now. Didnt you know

[QUOTE=Strubaru;814957]probably most effective noise & cost wise would be a core filled concrete blockwork wall, strong as hell too[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=magic1;814958]dynmat[/QUOTE]


Chris I would like brick wall to keep with the period of the house, rather then rendering it, which will add another cost.

dynmat would help haha

Install a wide body fence!!

[QUOTE=BLUES;814973]Install a wide body fence!![/QUOTE]


Needs moar Fred poker hat

So back on this topic...

Council are being twats and due to a potenital road widening scheme they are able to take some land.

I dont want to be forking out huge money on a brick fence/ limestone that the council can rip up at my expense and then id have to replace with a new fence at my expense so looking at alternatives..

Would a colorbond fence plus sound deadening material used in audio etc block out noise? Or is it not worth the hassle?

Sounds like the start of "The Castle 2"


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while i haven't used it so no sure of the cost, i have read of this being used

[url=http://www.slimwall.com.au/acoustic-properties]Acoustic Fencing – Front & Boundary Fences | SlimWall[/url]

i think there may also be a product you can clad onto existing colourbond fences - makes it look like a rendered wall. this may offer some acoustic properties, cant remember the name sorry

Hi if your looking for a bricklayer
Give Christian 0420 640 952 a call he has over 15 years experience and tradies always comment on his work. The people who put my gate in said they have seen some dodgy walls they have to attempt to attatch gates to.

In regards to colourbond we have it now and it allows sound to travel. Hard call but worth getting a quote for this brick wall compare the difference?

The cladding by another user sounds good to I should look into that myself

Sell house, move to quiet street...

This is another similar product, quite cost effective as well.

[url]http://stallionproducts.com.au/diy-wall-fence-panel-system/[/url]

If you decide on colourbond, you should consider planting a fast growing hedge in front or a vine/creeper over it to help reduce noise

Another thing a fence and plants do is minimise the amount of air pollution entering your house/yard from cars and trucks. I remembering watching some show that tested the difference in pollution levels between no plants & plants in a trial in the UK.

[QUOTE=Adam86;834389]while i haven't used it so no sure of the cost, i have read of this being used

[url=http://www.slimwall.com.au/acoustic-properties]Acoustic Fencing – Front & Boundary Fences | SlimWall[/url]

i think there may also be a product you can clad onto existing colourbond fences - makes it look like a rendered wall. this may offer some acoustic properties, cant remember the name sorry[/QUOTE]

Those acoustic walls are interesting. Could work.

[QUOTE=red dragon2002;834391]Hi if your looking for a bricklayer
Give Christian 0420 640 952 a call he has over 15 years experience and tradies always comment on his work. The people who put my gate in said they have seen some dodgy walls they have to attempt to attatch gates to.

In regards to colourbond we have it now and it allows sound to travel. Hard call but worth getting a quote for this brick wall compare the difference?

The cladding by another user sounds good to I should look into that myself[/QUOTE]

I don't want to waste money on a brick wall that could be potentially be taken down in the future.

[QUOTE=nauli;834392]Sell house, move to quiet street...[/QUOTE]


Sound isn't bad. I want higher fence so looking at acoustic properties whilst I'm changing it.

[QUOTE=06STI;834402]This is another similar product, quite cost effective as well.

[url=http://stallionproducts.com.au/diy-wall-fence-panel-system/]DIY Wall Fence Panel System[/url]

I like the look of this fence actuslly. Thanks for the link,

If you decide on colourbond, you should consider planting a fast growing hedge in front or a vine/creeper over it to help reduce noise[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=QRSTUVWRX;834403]Another thing a fence and plants do is minimise the amount of air pollution entering your house/yard from cars and trucks. I remembering watching some show that tested the difference in pollution levels between no plants & plants in a trial in the UK.[/QUOTE]

I want to rise the fence height so that will be beneficial

You can get colourblond in 2.1m instead of standard 1.8m. Best price I found was R&R fencing.

Lily pilly, backyard bliss and goodbye Neighbour all grow fast and up to 6m. Have used with success for this purpose before.