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Brodz 17-07-2015 09:58 AM

Motorbikes
 
Thinking of getting my bike licence. Not for daily commuting just weekend runs and to gym and back.

Anyone on here have one? What's the likelihood of death. General thoughts?

Looking at cbr250r.

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AWDmoke 17-07-2015 10:31 AM

I finally went and got my bike license last year.
Easy as, but worth having a lesson or two from an experienced instructor.

Stuff riding a 250 thought.
I like quirky old machines and wanted something with torque so I bought a 1983 GT550

[IMG][URL=http://s7.photobucket.com/user/awdmoke/media/Not%20Another%20Project/GT550/IMG_20150624_115518.jpg.html][IMG]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y287/awdmoke/Not%20Another%20Project/GT550/IMG_20150624_115518.jpg[/IMG][/URL][/IMG]

lAMS approved, did my test on it too.

amtrapid 17-07-2015 11:10 AM

Had ridden bikes for many years from 13 yo to 33, Is it dangerous yes , can it kill you yes . I've had 3 serious accidents all with cars and all related to not being seen. I gave riding away about 6 yrs ago when 33.

I really enjoyed riding but having a family and the inlaws frowning upon me constantly I sold up. At that stage I was working away and the bike wasnt getting as much use. All my road accidents were in traffic while commuting to work or from. Never had an issue with leisure rides country runs etc .

I found bike riding calming and a great escape from stress , you must be vigilant 120% of the time and ride to conditions . For your use id say less chance of having an accident . If you haven't ridden at all before ride with people that have for a good period of time . With bikes experience is everything.

Unfortunately these days you can be the safest rider on earth but 50% of bike accidents are other road users 20% inexperience (over confidence kills on a bike ) and 30% not riding to the conditions.

Do not skimp on safety gear buy the more expensive helmets and proper boots, gloves , jacket , pants and back and kidney protection. Expensive gear lasts longer is more comfortable to wear especially in summer helmets fog less in cold and is better made. You wouldn't buy a piece of rope to replace a seatbelt in a car don't skimp on safety.

goodluck have fun

nick73 17-07-2015 11:31 AM

+1 to using proper riding gear.

Laid my old Beemer down at 100km/hr on a wet clay road 20km east of Kal. Slid on my back for miles before ploughing into the grading bank on the side of the road. Even on wet clay I still got a small friction burn through three layers of clothing (yes riding pants, and no not lycra) on my arse cheek.

Bitumen would have torn me to pieces...

SolarFilms 17-07-2015 12:51 PM

if you committing 2 years for LAM's get a decent sized bike Cbr500 which lams compatible is something id look out or an enduro (exc500 ktm) or supermoto(Drz400). something thats fun that will teach you to ride with moderate power those 250's are really underpowered and have the skinniest tires that suck dick for grip and safety you will get bored of it aswell

250s are meh good fuel but, sound gay, look gay and perform gay(especially on freeway) unless you get wr250x hehehe it can be your 2nd "wrx " decent power and brakes.

And good gear cant be stressed enough no shorts or singlets(even in summer) ! trust me road rash hurts and cringe at people that wear fuck all.

I know im talking alot about perfomance which is retarted when comes to Lams bikes because their all slow technically

phizzle 17-07-2015 02:24 PM

Only one year for LAMS if you're on a full car licence already.

I just got my licence a few months ago. Bought myself a brand new Kawasaki Ninja 300 (because FIFO didn't want something without warranty). Gets 400+ km per tank ($20) around town.

Pros:
Cheap to run/insure and hold value well (2nd hands are around $5-6k)
Dished some chop to a 1340cc HD Dyna 😁 (until 100km/h)
No vibrations
Looks basically like a super sport (yes I can list all the diffences too, save your fingers those in the know)
Can lift front tyre off the ground 1st-2nd change, talking a few cms lol
Keeps up with the CBR500R, the two most recommended LAMS non MX style bikes
Cons:
Doesn't sound like a super sport
Isn't a super sport
Regular gear changes because it's a close ratio box, but I love changing gears because it keeps my mind on what I'm doing as well as keeping the revs in the +7000rpm range (goes to 13000)

Rslib72 17-07-2015 03:19 PM

I have been riding for a long time started on dirt bikes aged 8 and had several road bike mostly kwakas and honda's now aged 43 and have been lucky enough to have had no serious accidents. Throw in I ride one for a living have been a postie for 20 years. Yes they are dangerous similar amtrapid had a lot pressure to give up bikes and I did for a little while i had a young family and a must is the buy the best gear you can afford. As the saying goes how much is your head worth.

The good met some great people through bikes and always feel like something is missing if I don't have one. I would not commute into town on one everyday to many fuckwits (on bikes as well) two biggest tips I can give you don't fixate on things where you look is where you go and don't try to keep up with other riders who are better than you. Sure more people can give you some good advice.

Mark

SolarFilms 17-07-2015 03:42 PM

[QUOTE=phizzle;826888]Only one year for LAMS if you're on a full car already.

I just got my licence a few months ago. Bought myself a brand new Kawasaki Ninja 300 (because FIFO didn't want something without warranty). Gets 400+ km per tank ($20) around town.

Pros:
Cheap to run/insure and hold value well (2nd hands are around $5-6k)
Dished some chop to a 1340cc HD Dyna �� (until 100km/h)
No vibrations
Looks basically like a super sport (yes I can list all the diffences too, save your fingers those in the know)
Can lift front tyre off the ground 1st-2nd change, talking a few cms lol
Keeps up with the CBR500R, the two most recommended LAMS non MX style bikes
Cons:
Doesn't sound like a super sport
Isn't a super sport
Regular gear changes because it's a close ratio box, but I love changing gears because it keeps my mind on what I'm doing as well as keeping the revs in the +7000rpm range (goes to 13000)[/QUOTE]

Awesome! didn't know that I'm on P's so guess that apply to me and no licence holders.

the only problem I find on the ninja 300/250 physically its to small especially for taller riders. Havent ridden the 300 one only the ninja 250 and had to rev the shit out of it. Imagine the 300 fixes that?

Yea ahah love those Mx style bikes ;) (raced motorcross couple years ago)

phizzle 17-07-2015 04:02 PM

[QUOTE=SolarFilms;826890]Awesome! didn't know that I'm on P's so guess that apply to me and no licence holders.

the only problem I find on the ninja 300/250 physically its to small especially for taller riders. Havent ridden the 300 one only the ninja 250 and had to rev the shit out of it. Imagine the 300 fixes that?[/QUOTE]
Starting top to bottom:
I'd have to read some fine print but, yeah, I think two years applies because it's not an unrestricted licence.

I'm 180cm, not overly tall but up further than a lot. I find the size nearly perfect, but that's subjective. I took the Ninja 650RL out and although it's more powerful/looks better imho, my knees were at much more of an angle because the foot pegs are further back, after 10 minutes I knew any decent ride was going to mean some soreness.

Ninja 250 has a carburetor/s and a 0-100 in the mid 7's. So yeah, gotta rev the crap out of it because all the power was in the higher rpms.
The Ninja 300 is not only 50cc bigger (well it's total 296cc for what it's worth), but has EFI so has more power everywhere. It's still sluggish under 5,000 rpm but you'll only be in that in 1st gear anyway. It's obviously at its best keeping the revs up but so long as your in the correct gear it revs out nicely from low down.

0-100 in 5.2s according to tests.

JTR 17-07-2015 08:36 PM

I recommend checking out PSB if you haven't already, lots of info and they do group rides every week catering for all types of riders. Always wear riding gear and assume every car is out to get you.
[url]http://www.perthstreetbikes.com/forum/[/url]

Rslib72 17-07-2015 08:57 PM

Yeh good site PSB been a member on there since about 2008 going through a bit of change of the guard there at the moment....

drewgong 18-07-2015 07:29 AM

i like offroading so i have a rego'ed xr600.. bit of a dinosaur but does the job well

thebish 18-07-2015 07:34 AM

[QUOTE=phizzle;826891]Starting top to bottom:
I'd have to read some fine print but, yeah, I think two years applies because it's not an unrestricted licence.

I'm 180cm, not overly tall but up further than a lot. I find the size nearly perfect, but that's subjective. I took the Ninja 650RL out and although it's more powerful/looks better imho, my knees were at much more of an angle because the foot pegs are further back, after 10 minutes I knew any decent ride was going to mean some soreness.

Ninja 250 has a carburetor/s and a 0-100 in the mid 7's. So yeah, gotta rev the crap out of it because all the power was in the higher rpms.
The Ninja 300 is not only 50cc bigger (well it's total 296cc for what it's worth), but has EFI so has more power everywhere. It's still sluggish under 5,000 rpm but you'll only be in that in 1st gear anyway. It's obviously at its best keeping the revs up but so long as your in the correct gear it revs out nicely from low down.

0-100 in 5.2s according to tests.[/QUOTE]

I think it might be 50cc bigger mate!

phizzle 18-07-2015 08:12 AM

Lol, yep, typo

Joker 18-07-2015 11:44 AM

I know a lot of guys here are saying spend your money on a helmet and I do agree but MAKE SURE IT FITS. You need to be fitted for a helmet an $800 shoei NXR is a great helmet and all but if the shape is wrong for your head you may as well have been riding with a Chinese knock off. Everyone has a different shape and size head and different brands accommodate differently. I'm not saying go buy cheap, but buy smart when it comes to your helmet. The guys at Rick Gills are super friendly and take you through how to fit a helmet and they won't push you to buy and particular brand. That being said their range isn't amazing so shop around once you know how to see if it fits properly.

Brodz 18-07-2015 12:10 PM

I have a tiny head 😂

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JTR 18-07-2015 05:09 PM

Helmet house would be the place to go. [url=http://www.helmethouse.com.au/]Helmet House[/url]

[I 86 I] 18-07-2015 11:51 PM

Currently doing lessons for R-E.
I'm in the same boat also, I want one for a weekend cruise down the coast etc. I have been driving for 18yrs and i am finding I am learning ALOT more about the road, and other drivers the more I ride. I'm kinda treating it like a hobby and really enjoying it.
I have been riding on a CB300F and find it a fun bike to get around on.
Would love to buy a a trumpy street triple 660 or ducati 645 but at my height it starts to get uncomfortable.
I ended up buying a '15 HD Iron 883 (yes i know its not a LAMS bike) basically due to being able to go straight onto a R Learners once I get my R-E, and not wasting my coin on a bike i'd keep for a year.

PS: fuck U-turns, they do my head in!

Skdtme 19-07-2015 02:06 PM

I have my R-E and all I can say is LOUD PIPES SAVE LIVES. Be heard as well as seen.

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shaunus 30-07-2015 09:38 AM

The only thing that has put me off ever getting a bike licence to this date is not that I don't trust my ability (15 yrs of mx) it's that I don't trust the amount of bad driver's out there. All it takes is one tiny lapse in concentration or a poor judgement by a driver and you're toast. A hit from a car at 50 into another car would be nothing like being hit at 50 whilst on a bike...Some food for thought!

Riggs 30-07-2015 12:16 PM

My 2c

1 - Spend good money on good riding gear, do not compromise on this.

2 - For your first bike (LAMS) Buy whatever you find comfy to ride and fist your budget. Every LAMS bike is slow as shit, cbr500s etc are no faster then a ninja 300. You will sell and get a bigger bike as soon as you can so don't fuss over which LAMS bike is better, people harp on about the differences too much. They are all shit. End of story.

3 - Don't be a hero. Imagine every car on the road is trying to kill you and you will learn to read traffic situations pretty quickly. Common sense will save your life.

4 - Do some track days. If your a complete noob BART is the course for you, if you have done that or are a bit more confident Trakdayz & Ridedays WA offer brilliant coaching courses to help you develop your skills at the track that could ultimately save your life on the road. I coach at both every now and then and can guarantee 1 days lesson at the track will teach you more about how to ride your bike then 10 years of road riding.

5 - Again, don't be a hero.


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