Yeah exactly. A lot of peeps selling their car, price it a lot higher than it's worth. Redbook is ok for a guide, but it doesn't take into consideration certain variables such as WA being more $$ for second hand than Eastern states. But it gives u a good guide. I always jump on Carsales , look at the price range for certain cars, cheapest to most expensive, you'll find the mean and thats pretty much the going rate.