i always aim at 15%-20% of their marked price...one thing that always seems to work is: "I've seen this at another store (insert Good Guys/Rick Hart/whatever) for $xxx can you beat this price?" Of course I've never been to other stores, which probably have the same prices on them but if you aim at 15%-20% on anything you'll be fine. They're still making money if they're selling it to me

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Member of the 18-35 club and proud of it! (For another 5 years...getting old)

New toy has arrived, 1/4 mile in 11.2 sec and only 114hp!