yes im definetly all for natural growth of muscle and losing weight as i used to weigh like 92 kg and cut it down to 76-78 kg andf kept it that way for while now, im pretty skinny but still have that bit of weight around the stomach thats blocks your abs from showing and just frustrating when i do excercise quite reguarly and thats why i thought just a little edge might help me shed that and just in 2 frame of minds now as i love doing all this with a natural and hardworking way. my goal is start putting on more muscle and shredding it but from the above comments i might just stick with it without the supplement and see how i go, thanks for info peeps.

PS i have couple of friends that use to be on the juice and makes me feel so much better to be doing this all naturely as i saw change in them instantly when they were on it, not very good company at all

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