Originally Posted by Kato

To all you whinging P-platers... Lay off the pipe.

You are a novice driver. You have no skill. If you are still 17 your brain and peripheral vision is actually still developing. You are more likely to succumb to peer pressure and do stupid things. Trust me, I've been there!

4 points is a hell of a lot in a year. It takes 3 years to get your points back, so this means you would be losing your license within 3 years at that rate. As you are new to driving, you should be cautious, not speeding everywhere. Getting caught twice in a year for doing 10-20kph over the speed limit is just not on and causing danger for many others on the road.

And I agree with others that the P plate should be placed in a regular visable spot.

It's funny how when you are a novice driver, you don't want people to know so you look cool going through the bottle shop. When you are a bit older you realise how you want all the P-platers to be extremely visable so you can prepare for the unexpected.