through my dodgy past of various tickets , I thought thats why the cameras takes two pics, so they can measure the distance/speed you were going to determine that you did go through the red light or not ? and not just over the line? where two pics take the same picture of you still at the line???... just a thought... make sense ?

I have been in line with someone at the same time and not gotten the fine before, although it was a speeding one and proabably 6+ years ago now, so may be different.

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