Had thought of a commodore but figure if I am going to get another car may as well get a 7 seater so we can take a friend or two if/when needed. Kia carnival is out of the question as they have 2 bucket seats as the second row so not really suitable putting kids seats right up the back. Pretty sure the Chrysler Voyager is same set up. Have heard the territory is pretty thirsty. Budget being $15k max puts the CX7/CX9 out of the equation as well...