Aircon system regas and lubrication
 

Hi P.WRX,

We are offering members a regas price of A$80.

This is done on our latest state of the art airconditioning machine. It vacuums and regases the sytem and re-lubricates the compressor in airconditioning system. Our service is compliant with ADRs. Our machine recycles any hydrocarbons present and we do not purge aircon gas into the atmosphere like a lot of doughy shops. We also include aircon compressor oil in the service which a lot of workshops do not and thus, aircon compressor failure in no time.

We can also locate the source of the leak and diagnose your airconditioning problems.

Rules of engagement:

Please make sure your compressor is not faulty before regasing. We will still charge the regas fee if the compressor is faulty or there is a leak. However, we will diagnose the problem for you.

We also offer an aircon purification service. P.WRX $250.

In some vehicles, bacteria and fungi build up in the blower system, which emits a foul odor when the a/c system is turned on. We are also equipped to clear your vehicle of unpleasant odors, while eliminating bacteria and fungi built up in your a/c system. For more info: [url]http://www.perth-wrx.com/vb/evolution-r/42269-air-con-purification-interior-deodorising.html[/url]

This process includes:

1) Changing the cabin filter
2) Use Fortron anti-bacteria and anti-fungi liquid spray, which is applied into your air blower intake system. This is used in conjunction witt our
3) Ozone generator which deodorises and kills bacteria present in your vehicle.

Below is a recent job done for a Benz W211 E200 Kompressor.
[IMG]http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h468/maoevor/DSC06104.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h468/maoevor/DSC06112.jpg[/IMG]

1) Hengst German cabin filter used:
[IMG]http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h468/maoevor/DSC06113.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h468/maoevor/DSC06105.jpg[/IMG]

2) Fortron Anti-bacteria and Anti-fungi spray kit used:
[IMG]http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h468/maoevor/DSC06110.jpg[/IMG]

3) All this is done in conjunction with the Ozone Generator for proper santisation:
[IMG]http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h468/maoevor/DSC06108.jpg[/IMG]

Can you convert an R12 system to R134A?
Whats the cost on that?

we run a new environmentally biodegradeable hydrocarbon gas that does not require you to change the R12 to R134A. We can regas your R12 for you.

Which Subaru vehicle is this for?

RS lib

How much to fit a compressor (+ rec. drier) on a '98 wrx? And whereabouts are you located?

we are at unit3, number 9, Capel ct. Bentley. Will be away this week, so if you have the parts, i will then give you a quote on labor as mechanic is still here. thanks

[QUOTE=mao;566426]we run a new environmentally biodegradeable hydrocarbon gas that does not require you to change the R12 to R134A. We can regas your R12 for you.[/QUOTE]

Is that $80 also?

Yes same price

With the summer round the corner, aircon gas system clean and regas will remain priced at $80.
This is done via our computerised aircon cleaning and regas machine in-house.

keen. do mobile gassing? Im on planet street welshpool :)
How long does it normally take to do they job?

Our computerised machine is a bit of a hassle to move about unfortunately.

It takes in total of 15mins for the machine to vacuum out all the aircon lubricant, dirt and then recycles the gas out of the gas system and pump new gas and aircon-compressor lubricant in.

If you can drop by, we can zip ur car out in 15mins.

Regards.

Id be more worried about having dirt in your air con lol

[QUOTE=mao;616735]Our computerised machine is a bit of a hassle to move about unfortunately.

It takes in total of 15mins for the machine to vacuum out all the aircon lubricant, dirt and then recycles the gas out of the gas system and pump new gas and aircon-compressor lubricant in.

If you can drop by, we can zip ur car out in 15mins.

Regards.[/QUOTE]

lol 15mins geez pop down lunch time sometime next week
Will this make my aircon cold?

The impurities in air-con gas system undermine the cooling efficiency of the system. A lot of ppl wonder why another air-conditioning system is colder then theirs, esp when they have the same vehicle.

Pumping new gas in is half the solution, having a clean system is what makes it cold. We have many times extracted the refrigerant out of the gas system, let the machine clean it and pump the same gas back in. Wala, airconditioning system is cold again.

We are equippied with a very expensive top-of-the-line computerised aircon machine that can clean, recycle and regas the a/c system, unlike the typical 2 gauge pump systems that most workshops have.

Our machine also automatically pumps compressor oil in to lubricate the a/c compressor, where maintenance is often overlooked by many techs.

[IMG]http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/2919/dsc01361kf.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/8102/dsc01362b.jpg[/IMG]





[QUOTE=Master D;616770]Id be more worried about having dirt in your air con lol[/QUOTE]

Cold it will be.

[QUOTE=Rexxar;616775]lol 15mins geez pop down lunch time sometime next week
Will this make my aircon cold?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=mao;616785]The impurities in air-con gas system undermine the cooling efficiency of the system. A lot of ppl wonder why another air-conditioning system is colder then theirs, esp when they have the same vehicle.

Pumping new gas in is half the solution, having a clean system is what makes it cold. We have many times extracted the refrigerant out of the gas system, let the machine clean it and pump the same gas back in. Wala, airconditioning system is cold again.

We are equippied with a very expensive top-of-the-line computerised aircon machine that can clean, recycle and regas the a/c system, unlike the typical 2 gauge pump systems that most workshops have.

Our machine also automatically pumps compressor oil in to lubricate the a/c compressor, where maintenance is often overlooked by many techs.

[IMG]http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/2919/dsc01361kf.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/8102/dsc01362b.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

Theortically, a sealed ac system should never have inpurties in the system.
If the oil is contaminated, its coming from somewhere...ie a leak/moisture.

'Theoretically' is an understatement Master D.
High pressure and low pressure a/c valves cannot seal 100%. If that were the case, cars will never ever need regasing.

Ever engineer would know this: Even in a closed energised equilibrium system from macro-mechanics down to atomisation, there is always a loss of energy somewhere.

However, you brought up a good pt. Should there be a leak in your a/c system, the Hychill gas we use is an environmentally friendly gas that is 100% Australian developed. This gas encompasses a green dye that would show outside of your a/c system if there is a leak.


[QUOTE=Master D;616815]Theortically, a sealed ac system should never have inpurties in the system.
If the oil is contaminated, its coming from somewhere...ie a leak/moisture.[/QUOTE]

To be concise Master D, compressor internals do wear and corrode to an extent, reacting with the a/c gas, resulting in contaminats in the a/c system.

The receiver dryer and condenser also produce enough contaminants due to moisture, which is very common in any a/c system.

So even if the a/c system is closed shut, impurities will still be present in any ac system overtime.

Not to argue, but if a valve leaks, its faulty, it needs replacing.
I know that by law (under the arctik scheme) i cant leave a refrigeration system with a leak. If the refrigerant contaminates a compressor, if causes rust, then you have a leak.
I have opened systems that have been sealed since installation 30+ years and never found a rust.
Driers remove moisture from a refrigerant system.

If your using this ezychill or whatever gas... I havent seen the properties of it but i look after machines that are 100x the size of a ac system running on R134a.. if i opened it up and there was rust id be looking for a leak and lookin to replace whatever the rusted component was.

But hey. Sounds like your machine does a kickass job :-)

Thanks Master D. So I'll assume that you deal with large commerical refrigerated equipment?

[QUOTE=Master D;616861]Not to argue, but if a valve leaks, its faulty, it needs replacing.
I know that by law (under the arctik scheme) i cant leave a refrigeration system with a leak. If the refrigerant contaminates a compressor, if causes rust, then you have a leak.
I have opened systems that have been sealed since installation 30+ years and never found a rust.
Driers remove moisture from a refrigerant system.

If your using this ezychill or whatever gas... I havent seen the properties of it but i look after machines that are 100x the size of a ac system running on R134a.. if i opened it up and there was rust id be looking for a leak and lookin to replace whatever the rusted component was.

But hey. Sounds like your machine does a kickass job :-)[/QUOTE]

MasterD loves climbing in manholes

The versatility of our A/C machine is phenomenal.

We had a P.WRX GD WRX come in today with his a/c not working. We then proceeded to check the gas in the system and there was none.

Started regassing the sytem and sure enough we found 2 leaks in the A/C compressor.
Our gas has a green dye which will show outside the leaks. We use the Hychill Gas which is an Australian manufactured greenhouse-safe hydrocarbon. Our machine also automatically recycles the gas, once a leak is detected, keeping the Australian environment safe.
See pic below. Note how the green dye emerges through the leak:
[IMG]http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/6057/dsc01382ws.jpg[/IMG]

Fixed the leaks and regassed the system in less than an hour. Our machine targets both the high and low pressure valves, unlike other systems here in Perth.

High and low pressure regassing pics below, done simultaneously on our a/c machine. This machine also lubricates the A/C compressor with compressor oil at the same time:
[IMG]http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/8906/dsc01380wq.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/5555/dsc01381j.jpg[/IMG]

yes that is my dirty car but like to thank Mao for doing the re gas for myself today was very helpful and never hesitant to quickly help and now my Aircon is working perfectly. thanks again mate keep up the good work.

Had a Forester in today who had his vehicle regassed in Jan and now the A/C is not cold again.

We pressurised the system, found the leak and regassed it all within an hour. Below is a pic of the regas:
[IMG]http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/64/dsc01842mw.jpg[/IMG]

Cheers again for your help today Mao and Warwick.

got my aircon regased as well, took about 15min and on a Saturday too :)

aircon regas?
 

Hi,

Can you tell me a phone number etc so I can book in? Do I have to quote anything to get the $80 deal?

thanks
Corinne

PM sent.

[QUOTE=corinnepayton;639369]Hi,

Can you tell me a phone number etc so I can book in? Do I have to quote anything to get the $80 deal?

thanks
Corinne[/QUOTE]

Thanks guys for the support.

We have found that the a/c compressors are proving to be the weakest link in the Subaru systems. As they age, they tend to leak, if not they hold and pump less pressure and as such the cooling efficiency decreases. We will be stocking these ZEXEL a/c compressors shortly.

Below is a recent re-gas done on a P.WRX ride.
[IMG]http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/4628/ac1rbc.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/921/ac2vw.jpg[/IMG]

Evolution R is able to regas newer R134 and older R12 systems as we have a computerised a/c machine.

Our machine goes through the following regassing process, not just a simple gas fill:

Mode 1: Old remnant gas is recycled out of your existing system.
Mode 2: Full vacuum process is performed to remove all moisture and impurities out of your a/c lines and system. This ensures your system is bone clean when new gas is charged in.
Mode 3: A/c gas is then charged into the system through the computerised machine with proper control of gas volume.

We will be stocking Subaru a/c replacement cabin filters, a/c compressors, a/c pressure switches and a/c driers.

Below is a job done on a Mazda 626 R134 system:
[IMG]http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2808/dsc02465n.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2808/dsc02465n.jpg[/IMG]

How much for a compressor?

These brand new units will arrive by Monday next week.

Stocking 2 different models. One for the GC8 and the other for the GD.

P.WRX price for GC8 a/c compressor --- $650.
P.WRX price for GD a/c compressor -- $650

Will put up details here the moment they arrive.

There are at least two different compressors in the GC8s. The pre 97 looks the same but has a smaller ID on the ports and are not interchangeable. Easiest way to tell if it is an early or late system is to check the condensor. Silver/unpainted is early, black is late. 97 being a changeover year tend to have a mixture of one or the other.
You may already know this, just thought I'd post it up here in case you don't so I can save someone from having a future headache.

When are these coming in Mao, sick of sweating my box off!!

The 2 compressors coming are for the GC and GD that we will be stocking are the Zexel units.

These are the Zexel DKV 14G and the Zexel DKV 11D

[QUOTE=GX-REX;650167]There are at least two different compressors in the GC8s. The pre 97 looks the same but has a smaller ID on the ports and are not interchangeable. Easiest way to tell if it is an early or late system is to check the condensor. Silver/unpainted is early, black is late. 97 being a changeover year tend to have a mixture of one or the other.
You may already know this, just thought I'd post it up here in case you don't so I can save someone from having a future headache.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=STI325V6;650239]When are these coming in Mao, sick of sweating my box off!![/QUOTE]

Hi, need to get my car re gassed after it stopped blowing cold air at the end of last summer.
If repairs do need to be made to fix leaks what kind of cost does that usually incur?
Finally are you usually open on saturdays?

Thanks in advance

Hi mate,

We will need to regas it with a yellow dye refrigerant and see where it is leaking from first. We are open alternate Saturdays and the next Sat we are on is the 20th of Oct.

Cheers.

Thanks P.WRX for your continuous support. Price for A/c Regas will be kept at $80 this year again.

Recent regas done @Evolution R for a P.WRX Bugeye. We are also able to fix most a/c compressor leaks on the spot:
[IMG]http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h468/maoevor/DSC05390.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h468/maoevor/DSC05388.jpg[/IMG]

Thanks Mao! Aircon is nice and cold (2 leaks fixed up after my aircon suddenly stopped working) and the new autowatch keypad is working great.

hey Mao will need to visit you again as my aircon has ceased again sinc ethe last regas, hopefully i dont need a new compressor