low 12's??
 

hey i have a stock 02 rex wid 3inch tbe, airfilter. I have $4k to spend on mods. I want to achieve low 12's. What parts would you guys sugest i need to put on to make this achievable thanks for your response... :rolleyes:

low 12's for 4k........ starting from basically stock......

might need to stretch your budget.

Low 12's on your car is quite a way away from 4 grand, budget at least 10k imo

yeah 4k seems a bit tight, but the first thing to do is SEARCH!! :D

you won't with 4k mate.

turbo, intake, headers, tune will cost alot more than 4k and even then you will struggle for a low 12.

low 12's
 

aahh okay cheers anyways i don't know roughly on how much things cost. What parts would you guys suggest for getting around 280-300hp atw? cheers boys...

4k could get you low 12s, but would you want to be able to drive your car after the 12?
strip the interior, remove the air cond and sound deadener and stick in 4k worth of nitrous you'd run a 12

Nitrous!!!

low 12's
 

lol thanks. but for real what parts would you guys sugest i put on to achieve 280-300hp atw. As i have seen many of your cars achieve this. thanks

sell you car, spend the 4k on cocain and buy a ripped vl turbo...........

On the other hand 4k will proberly get you, ECU ($1000),Pump($200),Injectors($500),Turbo($1000),Tune($1000) and maybe an STi TMIC($600) going over budget a little.

This MIGHT net you 12's. However expanding the budget a little more might get you a clutch after the first few runs of 6k sidestepping to get the 12's, and a new gearbox after flat changing 1st-2nd-3rd-4th.

[QUOTE=MY REXTC]Nitrous!!![/QUOTE]

^^^^My words ..

- VF34/35 Turbo
- ECU + Tune
- Bigger TMIC or FMIC
- CAI
- Fuel Pump + Reg

then start saving cash for all the shit that starts to break along the way, clutch and brake parts etc.

FMIC. TMIC Restricts!

Speak to Thodd he just spent a fair bit on his setup. Double what your spending then you might get close.

I you want advice go and spend money GETTING to this setup. Tune, Fuel pump, Turbo (TD06). Not sure what a wrx would run with this setup plus your excisting mods but 12's would be on the cards.

Kato running 12's yet with the td04?

Yes and no Brenno. Joey seems to be getting more HP from his VF turbo with a STi TMIC then i am with a vf 34/FMIC although i think he is running a little more psi. I suspect maybe you are losing resolution for having anti-lag and Wank-idle on. Im no ECU guru though, but an STi tmic is still good for 260+ hp atw

[QUOTE=mr_psi]Kato running 12's yet with the td04?[/QUOTE]
No he had his chance a while ago but the roof racks let him down.

[QUOTE=mr_psi]Kato running 12's yet with the td04?[/QUOTE]

On 2bar! If you want longevity thats probably not the way to go

low 12's
 

whats the maximum boost you could take the Vf34 turbo to? with injectors,pump,tbe,fmic,tune?

They can go up to above 2bar with a bit of encouragement, stace is running like 2.3 bar on one, its the engine thats the limiting factor

[QUOTE=Wrexx]FMIC. TMIC Restricts![/QUOTE]
Dude stop bagging out tmic's!

I dont see why your tmic is restricting your set up . . .

ummm i think a good boost level is about 22psi for a VF34 which is about 1.5bar. LIke everything, the harder you push it the less its life expectency is. Not only that, you are still running (not sure about deck, open like a GC8?) a 2ltr EJ205 therefore pushing it too far beyond 200kw will most likley see a big end bearing going eventually.

If it is open deck, would the bores be more inclined to warp as they are less secure then the EJ207/EJ257? <- Question for the tech heads :confused:

Best bet is ask the guys that are doing low 12's on a 2lt wrx block consistently what mod's they are running and what they spent.

Don't expect to get out of it any cheaper and don't expect to be as consistently as fast as someone with a number of runs under the belt. It does take more skill than you think to get a launch and 3 gear changes spot on. Every little mistake is a couple of tenths.

Also budget for repairs. Every pass gets you a pass closer to breaking something!!!

Specially when testers have been doing burnouts all day at the plex and you decide to 6k sidestep launch....bog down, gear snapping clunk of tearful agony ;p

Can be done, you already have the breathing mods in place.

Sti tmic or aftermarket alternative $300 - $900
VF series turbo, if your chasing 1/4 times, go a VF34 @ 1.5bar $1500
Verso tune $1000
fuel pump and be prepared to launch hard. $400

prices should include fitting.

You should be able to stretch the injectors, if not some decap them and you'll be fine.

Now you'll break 12's with those mods, doing consistent low 12's probably not, you'll kill the clutch to do it, BUT its 'possible', just don't be scared to launch :D

[QUOTE=PIGSTi]Speak to Thodd he just spent a fair bit on his setup. Double what your spending then you might get close.

I you want advice go and spend money GETTING to this setup. Tune, Fuel pump, Turbo (TD06). Not sure what a wrx would run with this setup plus your excisting mods but 12's would be on the cards.[/QUOTE]

Remember he has a standard 205, not to sure how happy it would be with a td06 on there?

Happy as a little kid with a big candy.

buy second hand parts and hope for the best

[QUOTE='[REXZIST]']Happy as a little kid with a big candy.[/QUOTE]

Until the candy breaks!

Yeah and when the candy breaks, it costs lost to fix the candy.....or better yet, re-wrap the candy and attempt to sell it to an unsuspecting school yard chump.....

Can be done quick run done of mine

Intercooler - $450 (STi TMIC)
VF turbo - $600-800 second hand
Link + Tune = $1000-1200 in your case verso
Silicon intake + pod = $450
Fuel Pump = $250

Thats the main things then just little bits that will cost abit more you already have exhaust so yeah i think with a 4-5k budget it is achievable!

By the way to be abit more reasonable i would be sort of saying mid 12s low would be pushing it for the amount of coin available!

[QUOTE=joey89]Can be done quick run done of mine

Intercooler - $450 (STi TMIC)
VF turbo - $600-800 second hand
Link + Tune = $1000-1200 in your case verso
Silicon intake + pod = $450
Fuel Pump = $250

Thats the main things then just little bits that will cost abit more you already have exhaust so yeah i think with a 4-5k budget it is achievable!

By the way to be abit more reasonable i would be sort of saying mid 12s low would be pushing it![/QUOTE]

You did a 12.4 with those mods in a light GC8, in a heavier bugeye I can't see him going 0.2-0.3 better to get a low 12 with same mods.

Low 12's in the GD shell with those mods 'might' be possible.

Consistently I would guess mid 12's with the mods mentioned before (vf34/tune/injectors/intercooler)

Wait a week or so and I'll be able to tell you what times that combo can run :D

P.S. for those asking I gave up with the 12 sec TD04 route. Having the parts in your shed gives you itchy feet :)

Maybe i'll stick with the TD04 and see how it goes?

China FMIC kit 400

Second hand VF30/34 600-900

Link/Verso/Emanage 1k - 1500

Clutch 500

Decap those stock injectors.

You wont do low 12's though.

Can i suggest maybe put some coin away for some brakes and suspension. All well and good having heaps of power but pretty shit if you can't stop in a hurry when required!!!

Stock 4 pots with some decent pads do a excellent job of pulling up WRX's.

Suspension isnt really an issue if he is simply worried about straight line, in fact the stock stuff will be better then aftermarket stuff that is generally stiffer as it allows better weight transfer towards the rear.

hehehe i love how decapping has become almost the defacto standard now days..

I remember the "you must be a moron" label that was stickered on people who had decapped injectors or were even considering the technique.

:D

I wish you could do it to side feeds!

If hes on a budget, they work, so why not I spose.

Decapping the injectors will work, sure it's a tightass method, but the alternate is paying $500+ for an extra 120cc's per injector.