Betty White - Fastest In SA
 

You think I might have been a little disappointed swapping over my Time Attack winning EVO X GSR for a MY09 Betty STi. Not a part of it. While it might be a little different in WA, there is an underlying sentiment amongst the EVO ladies in SA that the Subie is no good, slow, and generally blows up. Just didnt seem to make sense to me......so away we went.
[img]http://www.ls1turbo.com.au/pics/projectsti.jpg[/img]
Several hours was spent on the dyno tuning for E85 which we have on pump here, so with 850cc injectors and a surge tank/Walbro 255l/hr pump I mapped the engine up with Opensource software (we write/tune using this method on Subaru/Mitsu)
[img]http://www.ls1turbo.com.au/pics/stirollers.jpg[/img]
Bottom line from the tuning session is that the EJ257 engine on E85 makes more power and torque (substantially) than the EVO X 4B11 on E85, and all using less boost pressure. In other words the Subaru engine simply does it much easier.

Figures for power tuning came in at 237awkw using 17psi boost pressure. Thats TBE, fuel system, tune. These arent Disney Dyno figures either but real numbers.
[img] http://www.ls1turbo.com.au/pics/stievo.jpg[/img]
More to follow if anyone wants to hear the story...

what's this "evo" you speak of?
all i know is sti

[QUOTE=Jordiee;548983]what's this "evo" you speak of?
all i know is sti[/QUOTE]

This one -
[img]http://www.ls1turbo.com.au/pics/evoxpics.jpg[/img]

I think you should continue with the story

[QUOTE=reconus;548986]I think you should continue with the story[/QUOTE]

this

Brendon

p.s. I hope you are wrong because I have an Evo X RS for tarmac duties on order.

Dont worry the EVO X RS is inherently a faster car in the chassis department, but they dont go close on Power/Torque

E85 fuel? Is this what most people use or?

[QUOTE=207 de;549009]E85 fuel? Is this what most people use or?[/QUOTE]

[img]http://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/health/images/YolnguBoy-petrolSniffingScene.jpg[/img]

Keen to hear more about this rig

[QUOTE=Reverb;549020]Keen to hear more about this rig[/QUOTE]

good read here [url]http://www.willallracing.com.au/wr310.htm[/url]

Time Attack Round 1 in SA Last Month
Willall Betty - 1
Opposition - 0

Here is the opposition in the AWD Street Car class, even 2 x R35 GTRs in that lot, and Betty set the fastest time

1. Infinity Signs - EVO 10MR #208 CLUB/AWD
2. Infinity Signs - MY07 STi #47 CLUB/AWD
3. Steve Knight Racetech - EVO 6.5 #93 CLUB/AWD
4. Steve Knight Racetech - EVO 7 #747 CLUB/AWD
5. Steve Knight Racetech - EVO 6 #586 CLUB/AWD
6. Steve Knight Racetech - R34 GTR #34 CLUB/AWD
7. Steve Knight Racetech - EVO 6 #6 CLUB/AWD
8. Willall Racing - R35 GTR #35 CLUB/AWD
9. All Seasons Air Conditioning - R33 GTR #777 CLUB/AWD
10. S & J Automotive - MY00 STi #106 CLUB/AWD
11. S & J Automotive - MY02 STi #33 CLUB/AWD
12. S & J Automotive - MY07 WRX #76 CLUB/AWD
13. S & J Automotive - R35 GTR #22 CLUB/AWD
14. Mike Dale Automotive - VR4 GALANT #36 CLUB/AWD

[QUOTE=urabus;548990]this

Brendon

p.s. I hope you are wrong because I have an Evo X RS for tarmac duties on order.[/QUOTE]

When does it arrive Brendon?
I'm perservering the STI route

[QUOTE=Welby;549095]When does it arrive Brendon?
I'm perservering the STI route[/QUOTE]

pm sent

Brendon

interesting:

Suspension Upgrades::
HSD Coilover suspension System

Willall Racing Springs

Andy
I like to set the car up to handle the way I want it to handle, so I dont use the off the shelf HSD spring rates in the car. Instead we go out for a test day and get some data, make some changes, and see where it puts us - in the case of Betty its a fair bit stiffer than the stock offerings

I am curious how many many track days or kms do think you have put on the HSD coilovers Martin ?

why did you choose HSD's ?

The HSDs in the STi have done plenty of work, many track days and around 15,000km on the road. Ben from Otomoto has been a mate/workmate of mine over many years from the early magazine days and 'back in the day' gave me a set to try in one of our R32 GTRs. They have always worked the way - I want them to work, so I stick with them.

They are no $15,000 a corner Sachs race unit, but they are good value and seem to work very well on the track

Why not go for custom HSD spring rate's? They put different springs onto my HR's in the Liberty.

p.s - Andy 5 - I told you so... Why do you doubt me?

[QUOTE=Jimmy S;549455]Why not go for custom HSD spring rate's? They put different springs onto my HR's in the Liberty.

p.s - Andy 5 - I told you so... Why do you doubt me?[/QUOTE]

I'll have to drive and check before your Lib goes Jimmy.

Was it the same spring rating as Dave's old lib?

Love the HSD's.. I sell these for a reason, because they're a high quality unit and are excellent value for money.

There seems to be something wrong with you're price list....it's not MASSIVELY overpriced compared to similar offerings from one over east that sounds like Em Are Tea.

Seems like pretty good value for money for someone who just wants the car to perform & doesn't have the time to research all the best setups etc.

The only thing I want clarification on is - surely the E85 and 98 setups produce different power/torque numbers?

Thats an amazing car(s)! Decent torque.

if we could only buy E85 at the pump ?

For anyone that wants abit more info on the evo i've got some 'Performance Imports' magazines with the tech articles on it.

Martin I understand you have my mates GTR coming in for some work late this week early next week. Hes the tall Dutch guy.

Just for shits and giggles ring him next week and tell him that it through a leg out of bed on the dyno. Would make an awesome 'gotcha' call.

Then politely let him know that is all good.

Brendon

Do Not Want to be your mate Brendon :D

[quote=american dave;549814]do not want to be your mate brendon :d[/quote]

+ 1

Brendon doesnt have mates... Just people he hasnt made enemies with :-p

Lulz

[QUOTE=urabus;549813]Martin I understand you have my mates GTR coming in for some work late this week early next week. Hes the tall Dutch guy. Just for shits and giggles ring him next week and tell him that it through a leg out of bed on the dyno. Would make an awesome 'gotcha' call. Then politely let him know that is all good.
Brendon[/QUOTE]

Errr um no....
But I will take him for a ride in our GTR maybe impress/scare him :)
Here is how it dynos -
[img]http://www.ls1turbo.com.au/pics/rrrref7.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=Martin Donnon;549993]Errr um no....
But I will take him for a ride in our GTR maybe impress/scare him :)
Here is how it dynos -
[img]http://www.ls1turbo.com.au/pics/rrrref7.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]

Yeah.....that'll do fine for street :D

Thats an awful lot of Torque!

Its an awful lot of car!

Martin, not dak dak related... but do you have any sound clips of your Ti exhaust for the EvoX?

Man your cars make a shitload of power in neutral. :D

In all seriousness though awesome work with the betty!

I love the Betty because its the underdog
I am racing it this weekend at the Mount Alma mile, probably the most fearsome Hillclimb in Australia - it is VERY fast. I have some Pirelli soft slicks for her, lets pray for some sun and god willing we will slay the infidel EVO menace......again!

More info here - [url]www.mountalmamile.com[/url]
You can see the fearsome scowl faced Betty in the entry list!
Can anyone overnight me a perth-wrx sticker to run on the car?

PM Kymbo aka "Impresiv" as he's the sticker man.

Someone get it overnight via express post to -
Willall Racing
Corner Of Wilkins and Browning Street
Gillman SA 5013

and I will do my best to make you guys stars........or at least get in the top 15!

Also many funny photos to follow

[QUOTE=Martin Donnon;549993]Errr um no....
But I will take him for a ride in our GTR maybe impress/scare him :)][/QUOTE]

Have you been following the Nissan GTR drive day over at Phillip Island? A certain modded GTR belonging to a Perth workshop through a rod today.

Putting him in yours will just translate to him procrastinating over doing similar mods to his and then the ear bashing I will get when he gets home.

Brendon

[QUOTE=Martin Donnon;550034]Someone get it overnight via express post to -
Willall Racing
Corner Of Wilkins and Browning Street
Gillman SA 5013

and I will do my best to make you guys stars........or at least get in the top 15!

Also many funny photos to follow[/QUOTE]

i have a spare...but it's pink :)