I don't mean advertising as in pushing EvoR. I mean advertising the fact that he's hacking the tuning software or whatever that hacking you mention entails.

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Oh, i c. I think the whole ecutek lock is unnecessary, its up to the tuner not the programme (but ecutek does have some amazing functions).

All the good open source tuners, like asg and evo r, r giving ecutek pressure. I thimk its good for consumers, competitive market is better than monopoly. Workshop should use skill and service to keep their customers, not by preventing them to go to another shop.

Brett @ mrt percormance is well aware of unlocking ecutek.

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MY08 STI 422whp at 1.5bar on E85, built by Diversion Garage, assembled and tuned by EvoR

Update from new owner: 375whp at 1.4bar on 98, at Tokyo Motorsport

Fixed for accuracy

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The more people I meet the more I like my Dog!

12.463 1/4 mile, not bad for an old school Liberty [DECEASED]

MY08 Liberty Tuned by STi

The idea of locking is to prevent the theft of the tuners intellectual property (i.e -specific mapping used in the tune).....Regardless of the ECU platform.

Those that build their reputation based on their skills, knowledge & tuning 'tricks' as a tuner should reserve the right to protect their work - otherwise anyone with a laptop, software & an interface cable can steal the data and re-sell it as their own. Ala ~ Ebay mail order tunes.

If someone is cracking the software locks, why would they not save a copy of another tuner's work?
Especially if the car has a unique set of mods - it would save them time on similar future tunes - would it not?

I'm not saying that happens but it easily could.

Discuss........

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Scary...that's what I got told by the tuner about the stock 06/07 STi ECUs when it comes to flex fuel tuning.

Can we "flex" fuel tune with a flex fuel sensor on the stock 06/07 ECUs then?
if so please advise where, Sean said it wasn't possible, can Racetorque do it for that year's model?

You're right, I forgot to mention Tokyo Motorsports and RPW also

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06 STi: 309hp @22psi on 98ron...

There r shops stealing maps off other workshop for sure. But I dont think its the primary reason why ecutek lock still exists.

What ic is, there r cotpiea of all sort of products, ie pw tmic copy hks turbo copy etc. But those companies r still healthy, because they keep their r&d going and maintain their reputation in this ever competitive market.

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MY08 STI 422whp at 1.5bar on E85, built by Diversion Garage, assembled and tuned by EvoR

Update from new owner: 375whp at 1.4bar on 98, at Tokyo Motorsport

If Process West, HKS, etc. could lock their designs from being copied, they absolutely would. There's just no way to stop a physical product being reverse engineered.

The only other problem is finding out who is copying whom but good luck with that.

Patents can also be overwritten in some cases by making minute changes to design, using different materials etc, just depends on how much available cash you have to defend IP that may or may not be yours to begin with.

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Why do you think they lock the ECU then?
If not to protect the tuners R & D then for what exactly?

Even the good old Power FC can be 'protected' via the setting of a tuner string in Fc Edit, Apexi power Excel or Co-pilot....Locking out changes to whatever sections of the mapping/settings they choose.

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I don't wanna start another arguement on ecutek vs open source here.

Ecutek is great tool, but with the wrong tuner, it rather lost its advantage. Pick the tuner.

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MY08 STI 422whp at 1.5bar on E85, built by Diversion Garage, assembled and tuned by EvoR

Update from new owner: 375whp at 1.4bar on 98, at Tokyo Motorsport