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Old 12-02-2016, 11:17 AM
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Default Collateral Damage - What have you broken?

So as we all know there are a few weak links with Subaru's, so as a bit of Friday fun, What have you broken on your car (or a car you've been in)?

I know there are going to be a lot of smashed 5 speeds but I'm sure there are a few more "how the f*ck" ones going around.

Ill start off with my power steering pump... it wanted to eat itself.. here was the end result. Should be a nice smooth face...



And Denvers 4th gear dog ring that went bang last night at rally sprint
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Old 12-02-2016, 12:05 PM
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A couple of the ones i've had.

This was a stock 3.54 R160 Diff this happened at around 500hp



This was the failure that made me learn to do things myself.

I spent roughly $16000 for a motosport company in the UK (TSL) to do a build for me and it failed on it first trackday.







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Im not trying to be rude.... but 16k and they build you an open deck block??


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A couple of the ones i've had.

This was a stock 3.54 R160 Diff this happened at around 500hp



This was the failure that made me learn to do things myself.

I spent roughly $16000 for a motosport company in the UK (TSL) to do a build for me and it failed on it first trackday.







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Im not trying to be rude.... but 16k and they build you an open deck block??

Your point is what exactly? Don't jump to conclusions.

It wasn't a 500hp build so it didn't need a CDB for the power levels I was aiming for. I'd also much rather have a build using a 2.0L open deck block than I would a build using 2.5 semi closed deck block. Have you seen how thin the cylinder walls are on a stock EJ257?

It's one of those BS myths that seem to do the rounds that you need a CDB or SCDB for any kind of build. Its usually the same people that tell you that you need aftermarket cams for 350HP

Had mine not been sleeved i wouldn't have a 2.5 of any sort in my current build.

But to put your theory to rest, the $16K included new crank rods and pistons, Tomei headers, new Vf34, head porting and polishing, tuning dyno time, an ecutek licence, machining and labour. Comparing that to some of the receipts I've seen here for builds it was a bargain.

The 207 wasn't around back then so reusing the stock block halves with aims of around 350hp was not unreasonable. The costs of converting a CDB at the time just werent worth it for the power level I was aiming for.

It was also 16 years ago too and I knew fuck all about Subarus then. The whole mess led me to learn how to build them myself so in a way I'm glad it happened.

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luckily nothing in a Subaru yet **touch wood** but had a small failure on my MPS which could have been a lot worse.

The high pressure fuel pump internals failed due to the shafts incorrect tolerances causing excess lateral movement. Sent the part back to the manufacturer who gave me a full refund and a free replacement set of internals.



It failed at WOT but thankfully the ECU / COBB AP put the car into limp mode when a dangerous lean AFR situation was produced. So no engine damage, just a long drive home from the Motorplex...


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...the $16K included new crank rods and pistons, Tomei headers, new Vf34, head porting and polishing, tuning dyno time, an ecutek licence, machining and labour. Comparing that to some of the receipts I've seen here for builds it was a bargain...
That is a pretty conservative price list by most standards don't want to think about the money I have spent on cars over the years.
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Sorry i think you got me wrong. I didnt know 16k was for mods also, sounded like just the block build. I though 16k for a block build only was excessive.... and thought for 16k would of included a SCD block


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Your point is what exactly? Don't jump to conclusions.

It wasn't a 500hp build so it didn't need a CDB for the power levels I was aiming for. I'd also much rather have a build using a 2.0L open deck block than I would a build using 2.5 semi closed deck block. Have you seen how thin the cylinder walls are on a stock EJ257?

It's one of those BS myths that seem to do the rounds that you need a CDB or SCDB for any kind of build. Its usually the same people that tell you that you need aftermarket cams for 350HP

Had mine not been sleeved i wouldn't have a 2.5 of any sort in my current build.

But to put your theory to rest, the $16K included new crank rods and pistons, Tomei headers, new Vf34, head porting and polishing, tuning dyno time, an ecutek licence, machining and labour. Comparing that to some of the receipts I've seen here for builds it was a bargain.

The 207 wasn't around back then so reusing the stock block halves with aims of around 350hp was not unreasonable. The costs of converting a CDB at the time just werent worth it for the power level I was aiming for.

It was also 16 years ago too and I knew fuck all about Subarus then. The whole mess led me to learn how to build them myself so in a way I'm glad it happened.

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WOW, i guess they just wiped their hands and said your problem? A little bit of ping in the mix there too?
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WOW, i guess they just wiped their hands and said your problem? A little bit of ping in the mix there too?
Having spent $16000 with them they wouldn't even give me a fixed quote for dropping a used long motor in just to get me up and running again.

The car got towed back to me with all the engine components in cardboard boxes on the back seat and in the boot.

I bought a PDF Workshop manual on ebay and spent around $600 on tools and rebuilt the bugger myself. I've never looked back and have done all my own work since.
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Having spent $16000 with them they wouldn't even give me a fixed quote for dropping a used long motor in just to get me up and running again.

The car got towed back to me with all the engine components in cardboard boxes on the back seat and in the boot.

I bought a PDF Workshop manual on ebay and spent around $600 on tools and rebuilt the bugger myself. I've never looked back and have done all my own work since.
Nice work on going the rebuild path yourself shame it happened in a shit way. it doesnt even look like they checked the valve clearences on the other cylinders as well?
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A little too much on the rev limiter during the SES sprint at Collie last October made a nasty noise from #2 under the rocker cover, so I guess it's spat a shim (WRX not Sti).

Haven't bothered to pull it apart yet, but I will take photos.
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