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astralex 11-12-2007 09:37 PM

LT-10 on Classics
 
I'm planning on going down the Microtech path on my 99 WRX, have many people got them, or know how well they work on them? And when I get back over to Perth next year are there many people that can tune them well? Thanks

Mister Two 11-12-2007 09:50 PM

Power FC > Microtech

jEstEr? 11-12-2007 10:55 PM

no one really tunes microtechs over here, you have one option which isnt too fantastic, and if you choose to take this option you have an ECU no one else will touch.

A PowerFC, Link or LinkG3, Autronic or MoTeC would be much better options.

Don't buy a microtech because its cheap then have to drop 5x the ecu on a new motor

muggz 12-12-2007 07:14 AM

Microtech's are the Eastern States special! over here we do it with more 'advanced' PnP, like jester noted above.

We are currently running one on a 99 GT foz...economy was returning 300-330km per tank (with RA gearbox at 120kmh constant)
It definately needs a fresh tune.
I can sell you mine if you want.... buy buy cheap cheap!!

EXPLICIT 12-12-2007 08:20 AM

Microtech/electronic carby


SAME!!

astralex 12-12-2007 03:58 PM

Oh ok, I have a power fc but was told that they are pretty crap, and it just ran out of tune anyway. In most peoples opinion is this any better? I've got a z32 afm but haven't installed it yet.

BALISTC 12-12-2007 04:22 PM

Power FC is about 100000 times better than Microtech!!!!

astralex 12-12-2007 04:27 PM

Maybe I won't change plans then. Thanks for the input, too many tuners over here are single minded when it comes to what ECU to run, and it's hard to get much more than just an opinion.

jEstEr? 12-12-2007 05:03 PM

[QUOTE=astralex]Oh ok, I have a power fc but was told that they are pretty crap, and it just ran out of tune anyway. In most peoples opinion is this any better? I've got a z32 afm but haven't installed it yet.[/QUOTE]


who told you that?
and what the hell is "ran out of tune" ?

BOMB3R 12-12-2007 05:06 PM

[QUOTE=jEstEr?]who told you that?
and what the hell is "ran out of tune" ?[/QUOTE]
lol I was going to ask that too :D

teejay 12-12-2007 05:19 PM

Fit the Z32 and get it tuned, you will be amazed at how good the Power FC is.

Mister Two 12-12-2007 06:05 PM

Maybe he was referring to running out of resolution on the AFM. You can max out the voltage on the AFM when there is more airflow than it can measure. Which is not hard to do on a stock GC8 AFM. But a Z32 has better resolution and can measure accurately much more airflow than the gc8 AFM.

Power FC is a great ECU and is definitely the best bang for your buck ECU for a gc8 WRX.

jEstEr? 12-12-2007 06:11 PM

[QUOTE=Mister Two]Maybe he was referring to running out of resolution on the AFM. You can max out the voltage on the AFM when there is more airflow than it can measure. Which is not hard to do on a stock GC8 AFM. But a Z32 has better resolution and can measure accurately much more airflow than the gc8 AFM.[/QUOTE]


interesting, never really heard of anyone doing that. makes sense and was actually a limiting factor on my Mazda.

foxey 12-12-2007 07:47 PM

The Z32 AFM does not have more resolution and it will not measure the airflow more accurately, this is entirely down to the ADC used in the power FC or other ECU. Theoretically speaking, the lower the maximum measurable airflow, the higher the accuracy of the reading.

You could also increase the maximum measurable airflow on the GC8 sensor by placing it in a bigger pipe, though it would have to be re-scaled.

astralex 12-12-2007 08:10 PM

I obviously didn't really choose my words too well! Basically driving along, and the car died, and it wasn't the air flow meter. Had to get the computer sent off for repairs. Don't really know what happened to it, just, well, died. Might get the Z32 in and get a decent tune on it. Cheaper and hopefully reliable. Cheers guys.

jEstEr? 13-12-2007 09:18 AM

[QUOTE=foxey]The Z32 AFM does not have more resolution and it will not measure the airflow more accurately, this is entirely down to the ADC used in the power FC or other ECU. Theoretically speaking, the lower the maximum measurable airflow, the higher the accuracy of the reading.

You could also increase the maximum measurable airflow on the GC8 sensor by placing it in a bigger pipe, though it would have to be re-scaled.[/QUOTE]


the major benefit of the Z32 & PowerFC combo is the reliability the Z32 has over the MY99/00 AFM

teejay 13-12-2007 09:24 AM

[QUOTE=foxey]The Z32 AFM does not have more resolution and it will not measure the airflow more accurately, this is entirely down to the ADC used in the power FC or other ECU. Theoretically speaking, the lower the maximum measurable airflow, the higher the accuracy of the reading.

You could also increase the maximum measurable airflow on the GC8 sensor by placing it in a bigger pipe, though it would have to be re-scaled.[/QUOTE]

The Z32 AFM has a higher voltage range, which gives it the ability to "flow" more air then a stock GC8 AFM. Its the reason many cars upgrade to it.

In the Nissan world most of the SR or RB AFM's go to 3-4v the 32 one goes to 5v.

This has a vast difference on the tuning scope of the ECU.

foxey 13-12-2007 12:01 PM

I know that matty, but people should understand the real benefits behind switching their AFM, or any sensor for that matter.

The stock gc8 flow meter goes to 5V too (the idea of a sensor that doesn't is stupid), so the reason a Z32 meter flows more air is because it has a bigger ID. Assuming the same ADC is being used, this will result in a decreased resolution.

In saying that, this is somewhat of a mute point anyway as the power FC can get good enough readings from either to correctly control the fueling and ignition to the motor.


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