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KNGSTI 29-12-2014 01:27 PM

Issue with Brant on start up?
 
I've been having an intermittent with my 06 STi which still has the Brant fitted. I turn the ignition on, input my code & then go to start but it fails to do anything (ie; won't turn over) - I've noticed that I get a 'click' prior to being able to start the car (Brant module?). I have to wait for the click when it doesn't start or even turn the ignition off 5+ times before I get the 'click'.

Am I on the right track? Have many come across this issue?

**Insert Brant rage here**

dnbosiris 29-12-2014 02:02 PM

The click your referring to might be the fuel pump priming. It's more of a bzzz though. Unless you hear that noise the car won't start. Brant issues are very, very common. I know evo R in Bentley has helped people with Brant issues either by ripping it out and installing am auto watch system or by trying to diagnose the faulty sensor. Might be worth giving him a call.

RichX 29-12-2014 02:35 PM

The click is probably the relay in the Brant control module, as you have suggested .. heard it before when mine farked me over.

Hurtenstein 29-12-2014 02:47 PM

Yeah. There's three relays in the brant module. Sometimes they click, but don't actually close the contacts on it.

KNGSTI 04-02-2015 07:02 AM

Thanks for the responses guys, what are the modules worth to replace and how much work is involved? Contemplating removing it all together...

Top-Deck 04-02-2015 08:48 AM

As was said earlier, EvoR can remove/raplace whatever (not dealt with them so not 100% sure...) but another option is STechnic. I had pretty much the same problem where the fuel pump relay wasn't working properly, so took it to STechnic and they hardwired the fuel pump relay so it starts with ignition but left the other 2 relays in place, so that the keypad still works and immobiliser is still active. Best of both worlds as it was cheap (about $150 from memory), the car starts every time now and the security is still there ;)

grape juice 04-02-2015 11:38 AM

I've had the same problem.

There is a brant module sits under panelling on the drivers side centre console. It has 3 relays.

The first relay controls the unarming of the system. the second sends power to the ignition to actually turn the car over. The third controls the fuel pump.

I begun to have issues with mine after a week here are you're the options.

1) replace system with a new alarm (most people opt for autowatch and the like cost $500 ish for pull out and new)

2) look up on youtube the DIY to bridge the relay permanently (need solder experience, but worth trying if you're considering ripping it out anyways. and cost is $0. This is what is talked about above.

3) I done this for my fault and it worked for me and has worked for other people. If you are sitting in the drivers seat The module (if it is the cause) is located under the panelling near you left ankle. Kind of inline the with gearstick. Give that a bit of a bang in that area and see if you have any improvements.

I legit thought this was a complete load of shit. But I would have issues 2/3 times a week and when it wouldn't start up it would take half an hour to work.

Since using this trick amount 2 months ago, the car hasn't started on 3 occasions. On each occasion hitting that area caused the car to start next turn. Saved me a lot of fucking around and money replacing a system that works 99% of the time.


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