CAI Selection 09 Grimmspeed :O
 

Just when I had thought I had thought I've abandon thoughts for CAI changed my mind once again :)

What really made me rethink or get back into thinking doing it down the track was this + Hectic noises from my mates wrx

[url=http://www.grimmspeed.com/grimmspeed-cold-air-intake-08-14-subaru-wrx-sti-09-13-forester-xt/]GrimmSpeed Cold Air Intake - Subaru 08-14 WRX/STI, 09-13 Forester XT - GrimmSpeed[/url]

Best engineered CAI for wrx/sti 08-14!?

So the contenders AEM +Prefilter so its not water intake ?

K&N typhoon (Not fussed possible Maf fuck up I know how to oil filters)

And of course The grimm speed

Which would you buy and why? Dont tell me to keep stockbox.


Yeah Yeah I know its not like turbo selection thread and its just CAI so who give us a shit cant really go wrong with either one I still like talking about this.

IMO the third one looks to be the cleanest install. Whose going to be tuning it?

Process West didn't make the list?

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[QUOTE=Brett Allan;824317]Process West didn't make the list?

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From what I can see its the same poop as aem just with a k&n nothing wrong with it by all means just not really interested still love the brand will be picking up a verticooler later in the year.



Brodz. Mao or sean ill make my decision when I meet them myself and have a good talk about tunning then make my decision.

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I don't own one but from what I've heard & read the AEM setup is one of the best in regards to setting up/tuning etc..

I upgraded from a blitz to the AEM and love it. No issues with turbulence in front of the MAF. With a fully recirc BOV it sounds like a vent to atmosphere.

Been really happy with my Process West tuned by Sean. You can just about hear it in my vid in this post (skip to the end if you get bored!)...[url]http://www.perth-wrx.com/vb/731714-post116.html[/url]

Love that dash mat! ill might have to pick up one did they custom make it for you?


Have you had issuse's with water? since its an oil type filter I'm sure it resists it slightly.

It does sound awesome all cai's for subis sound beastly, hence the op about me changing my mind

[QUOTE=SolarFilms;824356]Love that dash mat! ill might have to pick up one did they custom make it for you?

Have you had issuse's with water? since its an oil type filter I'm sure it resists it slightly.

It does sound awesome all cai's for subis sound beastly, hence the op about me changing my mind[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I get a few comments about the dash mat, it's a stock item from a place in Armadale...info [URL="http://www.perth-wrx.com/vb/624331-post15.html"]here[/URL].

No issues with water so far, been through a few deep puddles at speed. It's fairly well protected, being in front of the wheel, with all the block off panels etc.

BTW, I'm following your WRX wheels for sale thread...trying to talk the Mrs. into letting me get them for the Foz, but she's playing hard ball at the moment! I'll let you know if she changes her mind :icon_evil

Wow that reminds me, sorry they got sold for 450 today shit haven't updated the for sale ad oddly enough the dude who picked up them was also drove a Foz it did look mint.


Theirs few on gum tree for sale though around the same price if that helps you at all

Bugger! I snoozed, I loosed...yeah, I'll keep working on it...

[QUOTE=STIMUL8IN;824359]BTW, I'm following your WRX wheels for sale thread...trying to talk the Mrs. into letting me get them for the Foz, but she's playing hard ball at the moment! I'll let you know if she changes her mind :icon_evil[/QUOTE]


My baby vomit poo yellow ones are up for sale. Bit of rash, ugly colour, Pirelli rubber.

200 bux if keen

[QUOTE=Brodz;824363]My baby vomit poo yellow ones are up for sale. Bit of rash, ugly colour, Pirelli rubber.

200 bux if keen[/QUOTE]
Pix? Hmm, if I've gotta paint them and get rid of rash, it might put them well out of my negotiating range...sorry to hijack your thread Solar!:o:o:o

I do it all the time ! no harm imho keeps the thread going. pwrx has been quite lately if ask me anyway


200? Id keep them for rainy day that's less then a Strut tower-bar

I mean if your happy to let em go for that much by all means

Hhaha brodz fucking west coast supporters ruined your rex before you picked it up .Bet he would have also 2 toned with dark blue given the chance.

[QUOTE=SolarFilms;824306]Just when I had thought I had thought I've abandon thoughts for CAI changed my mind once again :)

What really made me rethink or get back into thinking doing it down the track was this + Hectic noises from my mates wrx

[url=http://www.grimmspeed.com/grimmspeed-cold-air-intake-08-14-subaru-wrx-sti-09-13-forester-xt/]GrimmSpeed Cold Air Intake - Subaru 08-14 WRX/STI, 09-13 Forester XT - GrimmSpeed[/url]

Best engineered CAI for wrx/sti 08-14!?

So the contenders AEM +Prefilter so its not water intake ?

K&N typhoon (Not fussed possible Maf fuck up I know how to oil filters)

And of course The grimm speed

Which would you buy and why? Dont tell me to keep stockbox.


Yeah Yeah I know its not like turbo selection thread and its just CAI so who give us a shit cant really go wrong with either one I still like talking about this.[/QUOTE]

Don't know about the Grimm Speed CAI but I got the Cobb SF intake and air box, I thought it would be great but come time to fit and tune it Maxumum's said they wouldn't fit it as apparently it wasn't compatible with my Ecutec tune.


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[QUOTE=xcelcius;824423]Don't know about the Grimm Speed CAI but I got the Cobb SF intake and air box, I thought it would be great but come time to fit and tune it Maxumum's said they wouldn't fit it as apparently it wasn't compatible with my Ecutec tune.[/QUOTE]

Same deal here, but with ASG. I was the first in WA to buy and try one (on my '08). I've already made the OP aware of the potential problems come tuning time...

[QUOTE=TROLLEY;824425]Same deal here, but with ASG. I was the first in WA to buy and try one (on my '08). I've already made the OP aware of the potential problems come tuning time...[/QUOTE]

Hi Trolley, did you go with another CAI that was compatible with your tune or stick with the stock box.
Also what did you do with your Cobb intake & box??


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Sold it for half what I paid for the fucking thing to a kid over east. Running stock intake. CAI does two-fifths of fuck all apart from adding YOLO spec induction noises.

[QUOTE=TROLLEY;824436]apart from adding YOLO spec induction noises.[/QUOTE]

Pretty much.

It's quite liveable for years though unlike a hektik bov, or tututu. Had my APS for a while now. You only hear it during spool and then its gone.

Performance as you say though is 2 fifths/fa.

I wouldn't be devvo if i went to a stock OEM box though.

[QUOTE=TROLLEY;824436]Sold it for half what I paid for the fucking thing to a kid over east. Running stock intake. CAI does two-fifths of fuck all apart from adding YOLO spec induction noises.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I need a sucker..ops, kid to buy mine and as for the noise it sounded like a P platers car... Not a fan
Go stock👍


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[QUOTE=RichX;824438]Pretty much.

It's quite liveable for years though unlike a hektik bov, or tututu. Had my APS for a while now. You only hear it during spool and then its gone.

Performance as you say though is 2 fifths/fa.

I wouldn't be devvo if i went to a stock OEM box though.[/QUOTE]

I got annoyed with it just driving from STechnic to ASG for the tune, haha. Ended up being half happy that it was fucked off.

[QUOTE=xcelcius;824439]Yeah I need a sucker..ops, kid to buy mine and as for the noise it sounded like a P platers car... Not a fan
Go stock��

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Hmmmm Yes go on.....

(Pplater here don't know if I'm yolo spec though)


Nah for that very reason i decided to give up on a CAI but possible 15Hp for 400 bux, some noises and easy install meh why not.

The Cob system in general was regarded as the hardest to tune. don't count the accesport people that reckon their car runs awesome and probably the loudest since its so short.

CAI's are worth putting in. The guy that tunes for ecutek just struggles with them for some reason. My tuner runs an AEM and recommended it and I haven't had any issues at all. I could feel the difference quite easily between the crappy Blitz one and the AEM when I made the change.

My PW one lost me a bit of torque (4-5 Nm) and gained me a bit of powah (~19HP), but I love the noise. Not too loud, if the stereo is up, you can't hear it, but it's there if you need to do a YOLO drive-by B)

HAHAHHHA YOLO DRIVE BY!!!

thats gold

[QUOTE=SolarFilms;824446]Hmmmm Yes go on.....

(Pplater here don't know if I'm yolo spec though)


Nah for that very reason i decided to give up on a CAI but possible 15Hp for 400 bux, some noises and easy install meh why not.

The Cob system in general was regarded as the hardest to tune. don't count the accesport people that reckon their car runs awesome.[/QUOTE]

Yeah from what I can tell there's two schools of thought with CAI's
1: it does fuck all but make noise, don't do it
2: easy 15 to 20Hp for a few hundred $$ mad if you don't
My experience was got it put on and tuned by Mao, the dash kept lighting up like a Xmas tree so was told I needed a boost controller
Went to Maxumum's for a second opinion, they took of the Cobb CAI and went back to factory box then did Ecutec tune and now runs sweet & strong
Happy days😎


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The biggest issue you can have with running one of these is the MAF.

Issues are
Is the internal inside diamitor of the pipe the same as the OEM pipe ?
If not the MAF can not correctly measure the air flow.

The position of the MAF sensor on the pipe
It's best for it to be located as far away as possible from the Air cleaner to get a stable flow rate.
Yes the AEM one works, but I don't believe it works as well as a unit like process west has designed.

Hey seagull didnt you happen to see the link on the op with link to the grimmspeed one ? If so thoughts? from what can see they went out of the way to address that issue..

Probably just marketing though I'm not a expert on tuning or anything.


You say far from the maf is good hey? I've been told the opposite :/ even with some cai's the maf position varies between the wrx and sti like on the typhoon system wrx being close and sti being far. Edit see pics same intake.

[IMG]http://www.autogrimmig.com/media/import/69-8004ttk_eng.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.hptmotorsports.com/images/detailed/3/69-8005TWR-2.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=xcelcius;824456]My experience was got it put on and tuned by Mao, the dash kept lighting up like a Xmas tree so was told I needed a boost controller [/QUOTE]

I'm quite the tuning noob here, but how does getting a boost controller resolve issues associated with a CAI?

Wow, more anecdotal Maodness!

Yeah, it's all about the MAF. Sean couldn't get mine to work at first, but he used my car as test mule and worked out the coding. The ID for the PW and the OEM tubes was the same, but with far less restriction, the PW let a lot more air through above the scale of the MAF. Once Sean worked out how to re-scale the MAF, it was all good.

Note: I'm paraphrasing what Sean told me at the time, so bear with my lack of tuning knowledge!

[QUOTE=STIMUL8IN;824462]Yeah, it's all about the MAF. Sean couldn't get mine to work at first, but he used my car as test mule and worked out the coding. The ID for the PW and the OEM tubes was the same, but with far less restriction, the PW let a lot more air through above the scale of the MAF. Once Sean worked out how to re-scale the MAF, it was all good.

Note: I'm paraphrasing what Sean told me at the time, so bear with my lack of tuning knowledge![/QUOTE]

It was Pete (Intra on here, creator of Verso) that re-worked the scaling within the software after I discussed my COBB issue with him.

[QUOTE=STIMUL8IN;824462]Yeah, it's all about the MAF. Sean couldn't get mine to work at first, but he used my car as test mule and worked out the coding. The ID for the PW and the OEM tubes was the same, but with far less restriction, the PW let a lot more air through above the scale of the MAF. Once Sean worked out how to re-scale the MAF, it was all good.

Note: I'm paraphrasing what Sean told me at the time, so bear with my lack of tuning knowledge![/QUOTE]

That I can understand (Craig also told me something similar with his dilemmas), but what I can't fathom is why an aftermarket boost controller will correct that?

From the looks of it, the poster stated that they proceeded to go elsewhere, but it is enough to engage my curiosity.

[QUOTE=Soksta;824460]I'm quite the tuning noob here, but how does getting a boost controller resolve issues associated with a CAI?[/QUOTE]

I'm no tuning guru too
All I know was the first tune included a PW TMIC, Grimm Speed Solenoid, DW Fuel Pump, TB Xforce exhaust, Cobb BPV
Cobb CAI
Got 289Hp & 415Nm torque but check engine light kept coming on, when I told Mao at Evo R he said I need a boost control to solve the problem
Went to Maxumum's they said I don't need a boost control, took of the CAI & retuned it to 184KW & 383Nm on a Ecutec tune and now slightly less power but no lights on the dash and no whoosh whoosh sound & can hardly notice the Hp difference



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Also The guys at Maxumum's said they had too shut it down at 3000Rpm on the test Dyno because the air/fuel was all wrong and it was way too lean


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I have an aps cai I've never had a tuning issue from two different tuners over the years
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[QUOTE=Jacob92;824470]Yea why can't the ECU be tuned to control boost ?? Maybe a 3 port was needed

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Had a Grimmspeed 3 port solenoid on....


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[QUOTE=xcelcius;824469]Also The guys at Maxumum's said they had too shut it down at 3000Rpm on the test Dyno because the air/fuel was all wrong and it was way too lean


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before or after they took the CAI off ?

[QUOTE=Jacob92;824470]I have an aps cai I've never had a tuning issue from two different tuners over the years[/QUOTE]

Is your donk an ej257/255?