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JDGT05 22-01-2012 02:42 PM

Booked auto fx tomorrow afternoon :)

JDGT05 25-01-2012 12:39 PM

Just had Des from AutoFX do my front and rear guards. He did a really good job and would highly recommend him for anyone else who is looking to do it!

Justin s 27-01-2012 09:01 PM

I also just had Des roll the front gaurds on the wrx. He did a top job and is the man to call if your going to get it done. He also fixed a minor dent in the fender in the process! :D

98kellrs 18-02-2012 07:41 PM

Excellent thread, got a feeling Des will be getting a fair amount of work with this Rota sale that Dan's doing.

huggy_b 18-02-2012 08:13 PM

[QUOTE=98kellrs;653635]Excellent thread, got a feeling Des will be getting a fair amount of work with this Rota sale that Dan's doing.[/QUOTE]

Reckon so, I'll be one of them!

98kellrs 18-02-2012 08:17 PM

Yup me too, sure as hell not gonna fit 18 x 9's in there without some work!

phoenix 19-02-2012 03:57 PM

When the guards are rolled do the linings have to come out or does it not effect them ??

ewrxion87 19-02-2012 04:48 PM

hey mate, may i ask how much you were quoted,

i normally get dentcraft to do all my work...

[QUOTE=JD.WRX;646460]Just had Des from AutoFX do my front and rear guards. He did a really good job and would highly recommend him for anyone else who is looking to do it![/QUOTE]

JDGT05 19-02-2012 06:26 PM

[QUOTE=ewrxion87;653757]hey mate, may i ask how much you were quoted,

i normally get dentcraft to do all my work...[/QUOTE]

200-250 can't remember what I paid exactly. Depends if you go to his place or he comes to you!

ImPreSiV 19-02-2012 07:08 PM

Gonna have to get the guys out to do mine... did a bit of damage to the guards after the Motorkhana today. If these 7" wide +30's are scrubbing, I'm going to struggle with 9.5" wide +38's on the skid pan in March

baylee 19-02-2012 07:13 PM

How long does the job take?
Maybe in the next month or so, we could organise one of the above mentioned providers to do 5+ cars at one place.. I know of at least 2 that are in need of probably all 4 corners being done?

Thoughts?

forde 19-02-2012 07:35 PM

It took about 45 mins for des to roll 4 corners on my car and he had to do it all by hand as well.

98kellrs 19-02-2012 07:48 PM

[QUOTE=ImPreSiV;653817]Gonna have to get the guys out to do mine... did a bit of damage to the guards after the Motorkhana today. If these 7" wide +30's are scrubbing, I'm going to struggle with 9.5" wide +38's on the skid pan in March[/QUOTE]

Won't you need coilovers to squeeze 9.5 +38's in there without rubbing? I thought it was pretty much mandatory for anything more than 18x9 +42?

ImPreSiV 19-02-2012 07:56 PM

have you seen MY11 guards.

98kellrs 19-02-2012 08:19 PM

Nope...look forward to seeing them on the beast! :D

tris7an 19-02-2012 08:33 PM

I have STd coil overs on my06 Wrx I want to fit 18x9.5+35 rota T2R's in will it require all four guards rolled I plan on having negative camber also not sure how much but will they fit?

98kellrs 19-02-2012 08:43 PM

Depends what tyre you're planning to run. Wide tyres (say 265) will require more fender work than a narrower one because they sit squarer on the rims.

Assuming you run a moderate 245, you'd still need guards rolled and fenders pulled most likely.

(I was planning the exact same purchase and my information is based on what I have read on NASIOC, so don't quote me on this!:))

ImPreSiV 19-02-2012 08:47 PM

Tristan, if you run stretched tyres, you'll fit with camber and guard work, if you want to run 255 tyres (like I am running) then you may need to pump guards too

tris7an 19-02-2012 09:15 PM

Ok thanks impresiv : D what sort of guard work do you mean though I don't want to spend too much on getting work done to the guards : S

huggy_b 19-02-2012 09:20 PM

[QUOTE=tris7an;653866]Ok thanks impresiv : D what sort of guard work do you mean though I don't want to spend too much on getting work done to the guards : S[/QUOTE]

Then pick some different wheels. You'll need to roll all the corners and probably fender pull/tyre stretch/run big -ve camber.

ImPreSiV 19-02-2012 09:22 PM

pump/flare... that sort of thing. 9.5" wide on a GD wrx is starting to get too big...

tris7an 19-02-2012 09:42 PM

So what would be a good fit if 9.5 is too wide ?? I don't mind rolling the guards and some camber but don't want to go crazy on the fenders

teejay 19-02-2012 09:46 PM

Then dont get 9.5

tris7an 19-02-2012 09:47 PM

What is a good fit though I have looked at heaps of different widths but can't really tell the difference is the width the only thing making the guards require rolling or does the offset play a part ?

ImPreSiV 19-02-2012 09:57 PM

18 x 9's with 245's will be 'flush'

That's the look you're after... but this is for another thread. PM me if you want

huggy_b 19-02-2012 10:06 PM

[QUOTE=tris7an;653884]What is a good fit though I have looked at heaps of different widths but can't really tell the difference is the width the only thing making the guards require rolling or does the offset play a part ?[/QUOTE]

Of course offset plays a part. I'm guessing your standard rim is around +51/53 offset and 7" wide. A 9.5" +38 wheel means 2.5" wider (62.5mm) + 13mm to 15mm with the change of offset (53/51 - 38). End result would be a wheel that sits ~75mm further out than your standard wheel.

Basic maths.

tris7an 19-02-2012 10:08 PM

Sweet cheers guys and thanks impresiv I will do that now ; )

Sorry guys I never put rims like this on anything before sorry for my newbie lack of info : D

Andy! 20-02-2012 09:24 AM

[QUOTE=huggy_b;653895]Of course offset plays a part. I'm guessing your standard rim is around +51/53 offset and 7" wide. A 9.5" +38 wheel means 2.5" wider (62.5mm) + 13mm to 15mm with the change of offset (53/51 - 38). End result would be a wheel that sits ~75mm further out than your standard wheel.

Basic maths.[/QUOTE]

Except that you have done it wrong. Offset is from the centre of the width.
Rim will be 2.5" wider but only half that plus offset difference towards the guard.
So (2.5*25.4)/2 + (51-38) = 44.75 mm towards the guard.

Also depending on the tire width and profile you choose, the tire height will change this may give you more or less clearance.

Search google for a tire calculator to help.

extropy 20-02-2012 01:36 PM

Tris7an
 
I recently installed Rota DPT 18x8.5(+38) as per the link below on OEM STi springs. [URL]http://www.perth-wrx.com/vb/649521-post2221.html[/URL]

I get rubbing at the rear when going around roundabout if someone is in the back or at the front if going 100kph on country road. I will need to look at guard rolling.

[URL="http://www.wheeldude.com/wordpress/gallery"]Gallery | WHEELDUDE.COM[/URL] website with gallery has lots (and I mean lots) of photos with all different models of rims and car setups to give you an idea.

tris7an 20-02-2012 03:18 PM

cheers entropy great site will keep looking at it : D

huggy_b 20-02-2012 06:45 PM

[QUOTE=Andy!;653962]Except that you have done it wrong. Offset is from the centre of the width.
Rim will be 2.5" wider but only half that plus offset difference towards the guard.
So (2.5*25.4)/2 + (51-38) = 44.75 mm towards the guard.

Also depending on the tire width and profile you choose, the tire height will change this may give you more or less clearance.

Search google for a tire calculator to help.[/QUOTE]

:o that's what working 12 hours a day in Karratha heat will do to ya! Make silly little mistakes......roll on Saturday morning, home time.

tinno 06-03-2012 06:10 PM

Just had Des roll my rear guards this afternoon. I must say he is a very knowledgeable and skill full person. Pays extra attention to his work and is truly a perfectionist. I highly recommend him.

Don't forgot to mention perth-wrx if you're thinking of getting him to do some work for you ;)

ImPreSiV 06-03-2012 08:58 PM

What's the going rate for rears rolled these days, those of you who've used Des recently...?

b32 07-03-2012 11:00 AM

Are there any cons to rolling guards?

REXXXED 07-03-2012 11:53 AM

Con: Cannot fit stupidly wide tires under the guards for daily street use

huggy_b 07-03-2012 12:18 PM

[QUOTE=b32;658353]Are there any cons to rolling guards?[/QUOTE]

It [U]will[/U] distort your guards - the degree of distortion will depend on how far you push. I tried to get a pic, but it doesn't show up very well.

Des can get it to a point were it is very hard to pick unless you are really looking for it. Take it any further and he said it will become more and more noticeable.

But with 9.5" rims, you don't have much choice but to roll the guards.

ImPreSiV 12-03-2012 11:49 AM

I've got Des coming out to do my WRX tomorrow. Stu from Dentcraft is currently over east. Anyone got contact details for Murray or Richard from Dentcraft?

b32 12-03-2012 12:12 PM

Are you getting scrubbing on stock sus Kym?

How much is the rolling costing? Just rears?

ImPreSiV 12-03-2012 12:19 PM

it scrubs over large bumps at speed or with someone in the back and going around corners, otherwise, no. But I have a skid pan on Sunday so I thought I should do it now, in preperation!

I'm having him come out to me at my work. $145. Yes, just rears

tris7an 01-04-2012 09:25 PM

Who is dez is there a contact number for him? I'm putting 9.5"wide on mine do I need front and rears rolled ?


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