Evo vs Phillip Island
 

Taken from Evo OZ.

I feel for the guy being his first time on the track.

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Full story here below.

[url]http://www.evolutionoz.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=34196[/url]

For those who are not registered on Evo OZ here's what he had to say.

[COLOR=Blue]Now firstly I am fine, I was taken to Dandenong hospital for tests etc... I am still a bit stiff in the neck area - I guess undestandably so...

I basically don't remember much but the story goes as follows:

Exiting turn 2, put my foot down to power out, car ran wide, back right wheel went into gravel, backend stepped out... I stamped on the brakes, span 360 across the track to the infield and hit an embankment, which flipped the car a couple of times.

My PBox says I was doing about 100km/h before the spin... No data after that as the SD card popped out sad.gif

The main thing is I am ok, just minor bruising and some majorly dented ego sad.gifsad.gifsad.gifsad.gif I think I know what went wrong:

1) car not setup yet (first session, I should have taken it easy)
2) toe-in issue on front left, ran the strings up before the session and front left looked like 3mm toe-in, I thought I did it wrong so I left it...
3) too many ppl on the track and my impatience
4) **** lack of respect for the PI gods sad.gif *****

#4 was by far the biggest contributor to my crash! Let this be a lesson to you, NEVER NEVER underestimate how easy it is to loose control...

Now obviously there is NO insurance, I am NOT going to pull a dodgey and commit fraud, I knew the risks and unfortunately I got unlucky (with the car anyways) - so yeah it's going to be a heartbrakingly expensive experience for me (given the car is under a lease, so I need to pay it out basically)

Normally people are pretty quiet about this sort of thing, but I think it's good too remind everyone that trackdays are dangerous. That doesn't mean don't do trackdays, it just means:

DON'T DRIVE BEYOND YOUR ABILITIES
DON'T GET COCKY
*** DON'T DRIVE A CAR THAT CAN'T AFFORD TO LOOSE sad.gif ***

I would like to give thanks to all the guys that helped on the day - especially James (JPC) for buggerising about for me...

I am not sure what I will be doing with the car, I have a few options at the moment... However I have already promised my girl I won't be tracking again... Maybe the odd skidpan day.. But we will see... Not even sure if I will able to stay in the evo-fraternity sad.gif

PS - One last thing. RE - Fire Extinguishers:
Resats' bracket is fine, HOWEVER the cage that holds the FE is not. My FE came loose and was crashing about with me in the car... This could have easily killed me. From the looks of things it was the flippy clip part that came loose... So maybe some tape or something would hold it better?!??!

Thanks in advance for your kind words smile.gif

Cheers
D. [/COLOR]

ouch!!! :eek:

did he get the numberplate of that 300c bandwagon?


edit - you need to sign in, copy pasta?

I thought Evos drove themselves. Must have a fault in the yaw sensor...

I'm with GX-REX AYC failed as per all EVO smashes. :D

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[QUOTE]Now firstly I am fine, I was taken to Dandenong hospital for tests etc... I am still a bit stiff in the neck area - I guess undestandably so...

I basically don't remember much but the story goes as follows:

Exiting turn 2, put my foot down to power out, car ran wide, back right wheel went into gravel, backend stepped out... I stamped on the brakes, span 360 across the track to the infield and hit an embankment, which flipped the car a couple of times.

My PBox says I was doing about 100km/h before the spin... No data after that as the SD card popped out

The main thing is I am ok, just minor bruising and some majorly dented ego I think I know what went wrong:

1) car not setup yet (first session, I should have taken it easy)
2) toe-in issue on front left, ran the strings up before the session and front left looked like 3mm toe-in, I thought I did it wrong so I left it...
3) too many ppl on the track and my impatience
4) **** lack of respect for the PI gods *****

#4 was by far the biggest contributor to my crash! Let this be a lesson to you, NEVER NEVER underestimate how easy it is to loose control...

Now obviously there is NO insurance, I am NOT going to pull a dodgey and commit fraud, I knew the risks and unfortunately I got unlucky (with the car anyways) - so yeah it's going to be a heartbrakingly expensive experience for me (given the car is under a lease, so I need to pay it out basically)

Normally people are pretty quiet about this sort of thing, but I think it's good too remind everyone that trackdays are dangerous. That doesn't mean don't do trackdays, it just means:

DON'T DRIVE BEYOND YOUR ABILITIES
DON'T GET COCKY
*** DON'T DRIVE A CAR THAT CAN'T AFFORD TO LOOSE ***

I would like to give thanks to all the guys that helped on the day - especially James (JPC) for buggerising about for me...

I am not sure what I will be doing with the car, I have a few options at the moment... However I have already promised my girl I won't be tracking again... Maybe the odd skidpan day.. But we will see... Not even sure if I will able to stay in the evo-fraternity

PS - One last thing. RE - Fire Extinguishers:
Resats' bracket is fine, HOWEVER the cage that holds the FE is not. My FE came loose and was crashing about with me in the car... This could have easily killed me. From the looks of things it was the flippy clip part that came loose... So maybe some tape or something would hold it better?!??!

Thanks in advance for your kind words

Cheers
D.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=the kiwi]did he get the numberplate of that 300c bandwagon?


[COLOR=Red]edit - you need to sign in, copy pasta?[/COLOR][/QUOTE]

First post edited for you :D

Copied and pasted....

Oooops, beaten to it!

[QUOTE=JDM_STYLE]First post edited for you :D[/QUOTE]

danke both of you

Lol it wouldnt of happened if it was a scooby!!!


Gotta feel for him though how many would be honest with there insurance??

It definitely wasn't his first time on track, he is quite experienced.

Has been a bit of a wake up call to a few.

Going off happens to the best of them, 9 times out of 10 you might damage a front lip or something. Catching the edge and rolling like that is pretty unlucky.

Problem with electronic talent, when you come off, you come off HARD!!! Very lucky to have walked away.

[QUOTE=scoobygez]Lol it wouldnt of happened if it was a scooby!!![/QUOTE]

it probably would have been worse if it was a subaru...

[QUOTE=scoobygez]Lol it wouldnt of happened if it was a scooby!!!


Gotta feel for him though how many would be honest with there insurance??[/QUOTE]

Because it would have understeered on corner exit and not dropped the rear wheel off?

A good example of why you shouldn't take any car to the track that you cannot afford to lose.

Yeah you should have a track car and a road car!!!


yeah teejay scoob would of been ok :)

If it flipped a couple of times then that is one tough F^&KER of a car. Pretty reassuring really if you are intending to track one.

I wonder how a 8mr or 9 would have gone with an ali roof...

Ohh crap! Poor guy! I realised how easy it is to lose it on the track the other day. I spun mine twice. 50km/h sideways into the dirt. I thought it was gonna roll. Franz just laughed. haha

[QUOTE=teejay]I wonder how a 8mr or 9 would have gone with an ali roof...[/QUOTE]

That is a 9.

Forgive me, for some reason I thought it was a 7.

The other thing that shows up second read through is that it has a cage... probably made a massive difference.

[QUOTE=teejay]Forgive me, for some reason I thought it was a 7.

The other thing that shows up second read through is that it has a cage... probably made a massive difference.[/QUOTE]


it doesn't say it has a cage?

Na it says about the cage that holds the FE.

Fark me, I really need some coffee/speed/sleep.

That's not meant to happen is it? I have the feeling that wasn't meant to happen...

Ayc Fail.

[QUOTE=BALISTC]Ayc Fail.[/QUOTE]

funny fail.

[QUOTE=jEstEr?]funny fail.[/QUOTE]

So you think you can drive?

hilarious fail

Opinion fail...because I didn't ask for it ;)

one is vacklav the other is knob, combined you two make vacklav knob, EPIC FAIL!

[QUOTE=JDM_STYLE]

Exiting turn 2, put my foot down to power out, car ran wide, back right wheel went into gravel, backend stepped out... I stamped on the brakes, span 360 across the track to the infield and hit an embankment, which flipped the car a couple of times.
D. [/COLOR][/QUOTE]

This guys problem started way before he "got the foot down to power out".... Turn 2 at PI has a blind cresting apex which you can't see on TV. My bet is that he was bringing way to much speed off turn 1 into his turn in point at turn 2 and missed the blind apex by a "country mile" and the rest they say is history.

If he was able to get the data off his PBox it would show MASSIVE UNDERSTEER to SHIT MY PANTS.... No AYC was going to save his arse :whip2:

[QUOTE=Broomy] My bet is that he was bringing way to much speed off turn 1 into his turn in point at turn 2 and missed the blind apex by a "country mile" and the rest they say is history.:[/QUOTE]

You need to leave your balls on the dash for turn one. Full throttle for the win.

Brendon

looks like a big off, at the track = no insurance

[QUOTE=urabus]You need to leave your balls on the dash for turn one. Full throttle for the win.

Brendon[/QUOTE]

I agree... but there is a price to be payed at turn 2 for the heros. :laughing9

Don't Shannon's insure cars on the track so long as your not doing any competitive timed events ?

[QUOTE=WRXTASY]Don't Shannon's insure cars on the track so long as your not doing any competitive timed events ?[/QUOTE]


I don't know, but it would seem like an odd thing for an insurance company to do. Their aim is for their customers to pay them lots of money and never ever crash (if possible).

[QUOTE=WRXTASY]Don't Shannon's insure cars on the track so long as your not doing any competitive timed events ?[/QUOTE]

Sort of. I looked in to it some time ago so things may have changed since then but the basics were that it was a $200 increase to my premium and they would cover up to $10,000 only.

I believe it only covered for non-competative off road events...so in effect trackdays or skidpan sessions only. Any mention of a stop watch, g-meter or running alongside other cars would render it invalid.

The policy did not cover for personal injury (not sure about third party damage, injury or death) however I have since found out that because my various life and medical covers were taken out BEFORE taking up a new hobby involving fast cars they are still valid as they only use the information on the day of taking out the cover.

At the end of the day we all know the risk of driving on track but accidents like this are quite rare and you stand more chance of getting in a bingle on the way home at the end of event.

Its up to you how quickly you drive on track but in my opinion trackdays are not about blistering lap times or driving on the ragged edge...they are about pushing yourself and your car further than you can on the road while staying safe and hopefully learning a bit about your car.
The day I want to chase times and push as hard as my bravery will allow is the day I buy a tow car and a proper race car.

There is a UK company that will insure you for track days and timed events in Perth.

I have a quote for 904 Pounds for 3 track days (1Barbs 2 Collie) for 30,000 Pounds Cover. At that time the dollar was high so equated to around $70,000 AUD

[url]www.raceinsurance.co.uk[/url]

Part that worries me is that you have to make the claim within 2 days of the accident - too bad if your in a coma or hospital.

£904 for 3 days!!! K'in ell thats a lot of money...I know its international cover and all but you can get a day cover for £60 ($120ish) in the UK.