Market Research - Help me out gents
 

Who here holidays in Bali?

Now, if you were on holidays in Bali & had the opportunity to run timed laps in proper Karts (current model Arrow racing chassis') on a well maintained Kart track would you be interested?

What if i said that the lap times would be displayed live (Transponder system)?

What if i said it would happen under lights after dark in the dry season (cooler)?

What if I said there would be 10 x restricted 100cc (Kids) & 10 x unrestricted 100cc J race karts - 18hp 2 stroke (Adults)?

What if 15 minute sessions were only $25 for the j motored karts?

Helmet, race suit & neck brace all supplied.

Business owned & run by Aussies (on site).

Track length approx 1km - main straight 250 metres

Comments & thoughts appreciated please guys (Poll is multiple choice too)

FYI: The Unrestricted karts are capable of 150 kph, the restricted karts will top out at 70 kph.

i've been 4 times, i'd be super keen

Have this in place by end of August thanks

All sounds great but the only problem I can see is getting fuktards behind the wheel of a cart at 150kph. It would only take one to fuck it for everyone. Add that to the fact that if the two seaters are to entice a dad / son scenario that makes the above problem worse, even if it's putting around with the restricted.
/ level headed father of two input.

Not a frequent flyer but would definitely check this out if I was there.

As Burke has already touched on I think... Fucktards. Mandatory breatho before getting into the kart?

I hear you gents, it won't be a free for all - If your visibly impaired you won't get into a kart.

restricted run with other restricted karts & two seaters.

Unrestricted run alone.

The set up will be similar to the karts in Pattaya.

Shitty vid of Pattaya but you get the idea:

(Embedding refuses to work so here the youtube link)

[url=http://youtu.be/0jzjjUzkies]Pattaya Karting - YouTube[/url]

Pattaya would be much better, I'll be living a couple of hours away ;) Is that the track on the main drag down past Kata with the paint balling etc in the same complex?

Love the idea.
As mentioned by others, my biggest concern would be the same as setting up right here in bogan ville..
Lots of em travel to Bali, the insurance piece would scare me as an owner/operator of this establiment.. Not only the fuxktard factor, but also the ill-equipped insigiduals to handle such power to weight ratio..

Having said all that rubbish.
Boots packed!!!!

Bali...

Public Liability Insurance...

Do those words go together? :P

I reckon you'd get a lot of people though if the location is good.

[QUOTE=teejay;692623]Have this in place by end of August thanks[/QUOTE]
I'll give you an extra month...ready to hand my $25 over by end of September, cheers!

Indemnity form, same as Thailand (& here if you read the fine Print at any of the kart hire's here).

Perhaps a mandatory single restricted kart session prior to being let loose in the good karts?

Fast carts has an induction before letting everyone loose on the track, so surely the rules would be more relaxed there?

'thinking out loud here', is there any form of license v engine capacity issues?

[QUOTE=Rossco;692714](& here if you read the fine Print at any of the kart hire's here).[/QUOTE]

FYI, those disclaimers aren't worth the paper they are written on. Only there to remove a lot of the bullshit claims people put up.

This is under Australian law. I would advise discussions with an Indo lawyer first to ensure you are covered correctly.

Do you need the carts that go 150kph?

Capable of that speed but like pattaya will probably max around 120 due to main straight length.

Legalities of the power is a non issue, legalities of having this type of hire karts is a non issue.

All aspects of the local law have been investigated (the foundations for this business have been in the works for 2 years now - I'm not doing this alone)

You have Balinese partner right Rossco ?

1 Balinese & other Aussie partner.

Go at the end of footy season.......go on, I dare ya.

Bali > Indonesia > Corruption > You know the rest...

Going in November for a Bucks party! This would be awesome!

All the best with this venture Rossco.

[QUOTE=BLUES;692804]Bali > Indonesia > Corruption > You know the rest...[/QUOTE]

Guess "cost of business".

It obviously can be done otherwise Bali would still be 2-3 jalans near Kuta.

Cheers for all the comments, but can we please keep this on topic:

Don't bother yourself with the ins & outs of the business side of things - They have been well researched by people who are already involved in multiple businesses in the region.

As far as Fucktards go - 1 chance given - deliberate bumping or dangerous driving = a 2 minute stop & go penalty or your removal from the kart or a ban from returning altogether - dependent on severity of retardedness.

So Back to the Question:

Would you throw a kart around a track in Bali if you had access to a great track with well maintained 'proper' race karts & electronic lap timing for $25 AUD per 15 minute session?


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as long as they come in fat bastard spec.

Seeing as I don't even have a passport my vote probably doesn't count. If I was to find myself over there though I'd jump at the chance. I have an Arrow AX-5 with a KT100S and when i find time to take it out, it is insane fun. I just wish there were more places to take it out.

[QUOTE=GX-REX;692888]Seeing as I don't even have a passport my vote probably doesn't count. If I was to find myself over there though I'd jump at the chance. I have an Arrow AX-5 with a KT100S and when i find time to take it out, it is insane fun. I just wish there were more places to take it out.[/QUOTE]

[url=http://web.archive.org/web/20070710154824/http://kartvader.com/]KARTVADER.COM[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwYXabC_8wM[/url]

[QUOTE=GX-REX;692888]Seeing as I don't even have a passport my vote probably doesn't count. If I was to find myself over there though I'd jump at the chance. I have an Arrow AX-5 with a KT100S and when i find time to take it out, it is insane fun. I just wish there were more places to take it out.[/QUOTE]

I have a 1/2 share in an AX-8 Rotax MAX 125 Tag (electric start)... 28hp @ 14,000 rpm.

Kart vader no....Kart Michelin man here lol!

Yes several karts will feature fatboy seats Fletty.

P.s Mates get laps in the 125 Rotax........ :)

[QUOTE=Pimpreza;692641]Pattaya would be much better, I'll be living a couple of hours away ;) Is that the track on the main drag down past Kata with the paint balling etc in the same complex?[/QUOTE]

I don't think there was Paint ball there, it's the complex with 3 different tracks 2 black top & 1 dirt kart course - Forgotten the name of the area..... It's where they hold the Thai nationals every year.

When you say J are you talking about a Yamaha kt100j? [url=http://www.jatuning.com.au/popup_image.php?pID=5&image=0]Yamaha J 100 Kart Engine[/url]

I don't ever see one of these hitting 150? A kt100s will struggle to get this speed let alone a J

Kt100j's struggle with a full size chassis and anyone over 70kg

Other than that sounds awesome, as long as they are well maintained

I'd go for that cost Rossco.

Yup

[QUOTE=Sharpy.au;692924]When you say J are you talking about a Yamaha kt100j?

I don't ever see one of these hitting 150? A kt100s will struggle to get this speed let alone a J

Kt100j's struggle with a full size chassis and anyone over 70kg

Other than that sounds awesome, as long as they are well maintained[/QUOTE]

Yes, you're correct...I had the Kt100J's & S's ass backward.....

The Kt100j will easily hit 80 with a 90kg driver - albeit taking longer to wind up on the pipe.
The Kt100s will easily do 120 with an average weight adult on board - I was hitting 110 in Pattaya - I weigh 120 kg's.

A lack of grunt won't be an issue.

Just to clarify the quick karts will be KT100-S powered.
The 'slow' karts will be KT100-j's.
Two seaters will be 10hp Briggs & Stratton 4 strokes.

Sounds great. Plenty of cheap kt100s getting around if the new Aust national regs come through.

This is a great idea tho.

Karts & engines will be brand spanking new.

Any timeline on this? Planning a bucks there end of November!! Will be about 20 of us keen to do something like that!

12 - 18 months away approximately.

Track & buildings need to built first!

[QUOTE=Rossco;693165]12 - 18 months away approximately.

Track & buildings need to built first![/QUOTE]

Bugger! All well! Definitely be up for it when it gets up and running still though!

[QUOTE=Rossco;693000]Yes, you're correct...I had the Kt100J's & S's ass backward.....

The Kt100j will easily hit 80 with a 90kg driver - albeit taking longer to wind up on the pipe.
The Kt100s will easily do 120 with an average weight adult on board - I was hitting 110 in Pattaya - I weigh 120 kg's.

A lack of grunt won't be an issue.

Just to clarify the quick karts will be KT100-S powered.
The 'slow' karts will be KT100-j's.
Two seaters will be 10hp Briggs & Stratton 4 strokes.[/QUOTE]

This sounds pretty good than :icon_supe

just remember, amatuers in true sprint karts will go ass around quite regularly so you'll constantly be running out to push start the KT's as they have no clutch

We'll be using kt100-sec's - electric start & clutched for exactly that reason.

J's will be direct drive (so they do stop if spun) & we'll use a push kart for them.