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matto20v 07-02-2017 08:43 PM

[QUOTE=VUSSUTE;844837]Motor finally installed. Engine turns over and has oil pressure. Doesnt quite start and believe its due from going from sti yellow tops to 1000cc injectors.
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Did you try to start it with the tune/map on the ECU still from the previous motor?

VUSSUTE 07-02-2017 09:00 PM

The engine shop did. Pretty sure they were not interested in it starting. More concerned with checking fuel pressure and oil pressure before dyno run in

VUSSUTE 07-02-2017 09:16 PM

For information. Total cost of build has been $33500 inc 6 speed conversion

matto20v 07-02-2017 09:53 PM

[QUOTE=VUSSUTE;844840]The engine shop did. Pretty sure they were not interested in it starting. More concerned with checking fuel pressure and oil pressure before dyno run in[/QUOTE]


Ahh, yep, gotcha. The reason I ask, is this:

[url=http://www.hastingsmfg.com/dev/ServiceTips/fuel_wash.htm]Fuel wash[/url]

seagull 07-02-2017 10:01 PM

Cranked over
No coil connected


Just like you did Matt when you fitted the 207

matto20v 07-02-2017 10:07 PM

Ah, makes sence.

VUSSUTE 08-02-2017 08:56 AM

Really just want to put a praise out about Neil Herbert and Juan at the Engine Shop.

They didnt only strip down and remachine the poor machining from another company, Juan took the job on personally and went above and beyond to build this engine up with absolute attention to detail. Without asking (or paying) they have soda blasted my block and painted it (and looks perfect) the wiring has all been cleaned up and engine bay pressure washed to name a few things. They also refurbished my header tank which looks fantastic. The engine bay looks exceptionally clean.

They kept me informed of every hurdle and even sent me progress pictures. Great to chat with and always felt welcomed at the shop.
I have dealt with alot of engine builders in my time (namely LSX builders) and i have never enjoyed dealing with a builder as much as i have these guys.

Highly highly recomend them!

Jacob92 08-02-2017 09:30 AM

^^^ 100% agree i used neil/the engine shop for my latest build .. happy to have a chat , talk you thru exactly whats been done, answer a call for any questions after the fact .. highly recomend

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VUSSUTE 08-02-2017 03:22 PM

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VUSSUTE 08-02-2017 05:37 PM

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What a work of art

VUSSUTE 09-02-2017 02:50 PM

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Off she goes for her run in and powertune.

Fingers cross she makes more than 340whp. 360 would be lovely. Really have no idea what she will do on BP98

Brett Allan 20-02-2017 11:40 AM

Bump

VUSSUTE 20-02-2017 11:43 AM

Yeah mate. Car should be done tues/wed

Racetorque have a full house

VUSSUTE 20-02-2017 05:28 PM

Got a phone call from lane.. its made 358whp at 1.6 bar so far

Dan [GTI] 20-02-2017 05:47 PM

The '[I]so far[/I]' comment is promising. Good numbers so far.

VUSSUTE 20-02-2017 05:54 PM

Car has currently made 358whp at 1.6 bar.

They are still tuning

Bram 20-02-2017 08:48 PM

How much boost are they gonna push to?

VUSSUTE 20-02-2017 11:35 PM

Was going to goto 1.7 but decided to go back to 1.5 after adding a boost controller.
I will go higher when i go front mount

VUSSUTE 21-02-2017 03:24 PM

So no build would be right without its issues. There is a mssfire at the top end they are chasing. Need to get an oscope to find it.
On a good note, from what lane was saying it made 358whp with a missfire after 5800rpm.

Which says to me there is a fair bit more in it once the gremlin has been found

Bram 21-02-2017 03:30 PM

What is the spark plug gap.

My car had a similar thing on the dyno last week and gapping the plugs down a bit smaller made a significant difference. Think the next run after the plugs were fiddled with was like 20 or 30 hp higher than before. Was told it could also be valve float but thankfully playing with the plugs fixed it.

My plugs were brand new before the dyno aswell. Just whatever NGKs to suit my model car as original.

VUSSUTE 21-02-2017 03:36 PM

Not sure. I would assume Lane would be aware of these things

VUSSUTE 21-02-2017 03:38 PM

I dont think it could be valve float at only 5800rpm [QUOTE=Bram;845202]What is the spark plug gap.

My car had a similar thing on the dyno last week and gapping the plugs down a bit smaller made a significant difference. Think the next run after the plugs were fiddled with was like 20 or 30 hp higher than before. Was told it could also be valve float but thankfully playing with the plugs fixed it.

My plugs were brand new before the dyno aswell. Just whatever NGKs to suit my model car as original.[/QUOTE]

Jacob92 21-02-2017 04:03 PM

Float isnt just rpm related .. boost can also play a part .. what valve springs are in it ? Doubt its an issue thi

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VUSSUTE 21-02-2017 04:21 PM

Kelford springs to suite the cam.

VUSSUTE 21-02-2017 04:22 PM

They are supposed to be good to 25psi

VUSSUTE 21-02-2017 04:23 PM

[url=http://www.camshaftshop.com/products.php?productid=796]KVS109-STi, Single Valve Springs for up to 25lb boost - accessories - Kelford Cams[/url]

Them ones

Jacob92 21-02-2017 04:42 PM

Ah mmm 1.7 bar is ~~ 24.97 psi ish
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VUSSUTE 21-02-2017 05:06 PM

He ran it at 1.6 bar with no problems. And i want final tune at 1.5

Kaoself 21-02-2017 10:21 PM

I'll be very curious to see what the car finally makes. In Melbourne, the majority of people with bigger turbos are all running E85 and flex fuel, and I know of only one 2.1L stroker.

Why did the engine builder choose springs that are good to 25psi when the rest of the engine should happily be capable of more?

VUSSUTE 21-02-2017 11:22 PM

I asked for double valve springs during the build from RSS.
They ordered the wrong ones. Its kind of my fault as i didnt check them until after they were installed.



[QUOTE=Kaoself;845218]I'll be very curious to see what th[B][/B]e car finally makes. In Melbourne, the majority of people with bigger turbos are all running E85 and flex fuel, and I know of only one 2.1L stroker.

Why did the engine builder choose springs that are good to 25psi when the rest of the engine should happily be capable of more?[/QUOTE]

Kaoself 22-02-2017 01:51 AM

Well, 25psi is still a very good point for a Dom 1.5. Perhaps you won't need to go FMIC?

I'm still leaning far more towards the 20g xtr than the Dom 1.5 myself, but am still open to being convinced otherwise by other people's results.

TROLLEY 22-02-2017 09:42 AM

Sounds like RSS fucked you a bit. Rubbish machining and installing incorrect parts? Did you get any recompense or did you just wipe your hands of it and cop it on the chin?

Jacob92 22-02-2017 09:52 AM

Yea as above ^ ... ive used kris for thousands of dollars of parts allways been spot on even my oem oil pump on latest engine

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VUSSUTE 22-02-2017 11:30 AM

I wiped my hands and copped it on the chin.
I dont want to bad mouth RSS because apart from remachining the blockface, my experience was good. The machining is done by and external company, not RSS. And i have seen machinig on there other builds and its been great. I think i was just unlucky

I think most of the issues were caused from kelford, prospeed and RSS all miscommunicating with each other in regards to parts (which was an issue and meant i had to do a lot of chasing up)

To many parties involved. How ever, the engine shop were fantastic and directed the build back into a fun event.

I believe the dom 1.5 xtr will make more power than the 20g xtr but i guess time will tell.

TROLLEY 22-02-2017 03:19 PM

It definitely will, it flows more air. I wish I went the Dom to be honest but my 20g performs very well. I don't think I'd want anything that spooled up any slower. I'm fairly sure the Dom spool up is just as good as the 20g from what I've seen so far.

nick73 22-02-2017 03:25 PM

Will be a fucking weapon with those numbers coming off Lanes dyno.

matto20v 22-02-2017 08:22 PM

[QUOTE=nick73;845233]Will be a fucking weapon with those numbers coming off Lanes dyno.[/QUOTE]


I have been told its a "more realistic" dyno, than some of the others in Perth producing pie-in-the-sky numbers. Yeah?

nick73 22-02-2017 08:43 PM

[QUOTE=matto20v;845237]I have been told its a "more realistic" dyno, than some of the others in Perth producing pie-in-the-sky numbers. Yeah?[/QUOTE]

Yeah it's a roller and generally reads lowish from my experience. Lane can certainly make a car fuckoffski with it.

Kaoself 22-02-2017 11:23 PM

[QUOTE=TROLLEY;845232]It definitely will, it flows more air. I wish I went the Dom to be honest but my 20g performs very well. I don't think I'd want anything that spooled up any slower. I'm fairly sure the Dom spool up is just as good as the 20g from what I've seen so far.[/QUOTE]

I'm told there's approximately 200rpm difference in spool. I'm sure the 1.5xtr is the better choice for a built motor.

dazdavies 23-02-2017 06:27 PM

[QUOTE=matto20v;845237]I have been told its a "more realistic" dyno, than some of the others in Perth producing pie-in-the-sky numbers. Yeah?[/QUOTE]

Yeah Maximum's dyno was always a "low reader" until mine went on it after which it suddenly became a "high reader" overnight.

Had it done on the Hub dyno at Tokyo MS too. Both were identical at 605whp. Go figure.

People get far too focused on dyno numbers. It's what it does on the tarmac that counts.


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