Yeah I know that, I always wait at the white line if I can clearly see the traffic banking up ahead, and it also annoys me when people don't. But on occasion it can suddenly stop in front of you, especially when turning right and you don't expect the traffic to be that far banked up. If the people aren't braking ahead of you, and you can't see around the corner, with a green arrow, you have to assume you're fine to go. Then all of a sudden everyone ahead slams on their brakes. Only happened a couple times, but I'm worried if it happened where there was a red light camera, would I get fined.

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It's at the corner of get a map, and fuck off