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damo 28-08-2008 09:45 PM

different HID kits
 
hey im just wondering if the difference in like say 8000k and 6000k HID kits are to do with the globes? or the actual kit? or could i get a set of 8000k globes and put them in my kit which has say 6000k globes in them say? hope this makes sence im not really sure how they work like that?

cheerz

pmh 28-08-2008 10:03 PM

globe dependent

RichX 28-08-2008 10:07 PM

Pretty sure different hid bulbs are different colour temps? I have 8000k i think, but reckon i could put another colour in though if i wanted, would just have to swap them over?

damo 28-08-2008 10:08 PM

ok coool cheerz guys

pmh 28-08-2008 10:09 PM

anything over 6000k, it gets to bluish, which is illegal

but for HID kits, you can swap different globes
the ballast is not globe dependent

damo 28-08-2008 10:11 PM

so if i took one of my globes out it would say if it was a 6000 or an 8000?

pmh 28-08-2008 10:14 PM

i think you'll be able to tell by the colour
huge difference

aura xt - local dealer
try the guide

[url]http://www.auraxt.com.au/colourguide.html[/url]

damo 28-08-2008 10:19 PM

wow is that site expencive or is that just me? like $650 for 6000k set wow thought they wer like $200ish

pmh 28-08-2008 10:20 PM

not all hid are same
even china specs are not same same

jezzamcbezza 28-08-2008 10:20 PM

[QUOTE=damo]hey im just wondering if the difference in like say 8000k and 6000k HID kits are to do with the globes? or the actual kit? or could i get a set of 8000k globes and put them in my kit which has say 6000k globes in them say? hope this makes sence im not really sure how they work like that?

cheerz[/QUOTE]

The ballast are the same, they only differ for 35watt or 55watt.

The globes are what change in colour temp.

You can change out the globes for different colour temps at any time and keep the same ballasts installed.

4300k is OEM standard of BMW, Audi etc that come with HID lights. It is white with a slight yellow hue

5000k is white

6000k is white with a slight blue hue

above 6000k is usually illegal

8000k is blue

10,000k is a slight green

12,000k is Purple

The higher you go in colour temp, the less actual light output (measured in lumens) from the kit, so 4300k actually puts out the most light. I always recommend 4300 - 6000k only and 35watt for low and only 55watt for (single beam) high beam or spot lights.

damo 28-08-2008 10:24 PM

so if i wanted a bit more wank factor by putting a set on my original my00 foglights? would i get say a set of 55watt 6000k to match my set of 6000k 35watt ones that i have on my normal headlights? is that how it would work?

RichX 28-08-2008 10:26 PM

Just checked, mine are 6000k .. very good light
Don't put HIDs in your foggies.
Not much need to even use foggies in Perth.

pmh 28-08-2008 10:27 PM

don't see a point on foggies, seriously
you do realise its illegal to have foggies on, unless there's fog (its perth, how often do we get fog) and its pouring down (again, its perth, not that often)
and i wouldn't want to be driving near you if you had foggies with HIDs in them, as you'll either blind me or ppl around me which could cause an accident

seriously, spend your $ on things that are useful

damo 28-08-2008 10:30 PM

ok coool, well i was looking at gettin like a CAI or sompthing simlar any recomendations? do they increase power or just help efficency of the engine? sorry i am quite a noob with all this kinda stuff :p

RichX 28-08-2008 10:31 PM

search dude search

pmh 28-08-2008 10:34 PM

turbo car like cold air
CAI can be either a ducting directing cold air to your air box or a pod filter with piping extended from the intake into the guard behind your wheel arch (this option removes air box)
2nd option is best done with an ecu reflash so you don't kill your motor after prolonged time

i suggest you dont clog this thread on hid with CAI question

impr3zive 28-08-2008 10:54 PM

i got a set of tac they are 8000k and yes they are a bit blueish but i only paid $160 and they are great shit loads betta than the shit i normally get from supercheap

NVRENUF 29-08-2008 07:55 AM

mate thats the lumens which refers to the colour temp of the globe,

4300k is the best colour to get as its most pure white.

anthing about 6000 is very blue. and not as bright

jezzamcbezza 29-08-2008 03:24 PM

[QUOTE=damo]so if i wanted a bit more wank factor by putting a set on my original my00 foglights? would i get say a set of 55watt 6000k to match my set of 6000k 35watt ones that i have on my normal headlights? is that how it would work?[/QUOTE]

You wouldn't want to be using your fogs with any oncoming traffic - it would def piss them off.

You can get HIDs in 3000k - which is more the yellow colour fogs 'should' be.

55 watt HIDs put out around 5000 lumens of "light brightness"

BALISTC 29-08-2008 03:45 PM

[QUOTE=impr3zive]i got a set of tac they are 8000k and yes they are a bit blueish but i only paid $160 and they are great shit loads betta than the shit i normally get from supercheap[/QUOTE]

8000k HID's in non-projector headlamps? I hope I never have to drive near you at night!

phizzle 29-08-2008 03:59 PM

[QUOTE=BALISTC]8000k HID's in non-projector headlamps? I hope I never have to drive near you at night![/QUOTE]
Nah man but itz siq to hav da fully brite lites ulleh

BALISTC 29-08-2008 04:05 PM

LOL, you do that well...you sure you're not a leb? :D

Seriously though....when will people learn that HID's in non-projector lights are not cool?

I'm fitting my HID's this week....BUT they are factory STi projector HID's with levelling motors, so I know they are going to look and work great :)

RichX 29-08-2008 04:32 PM

Can't believe you've held off so long dude .. Get them on mate.

Transforms it from looking kinad poontsy to angry and aggressive!! ;)

BALISTC 29-08-2008 04:34 PM

Ha ha Rich...this week coming mate! :D

daveygravey 29-08-2008 05:07 PM

my HID's are pretty good... just a a shame my lights keep leaking!! think mine are 6000

TopGear 29-08-2008 05:23 PM

mine work fine, and the light is much better then the standard globes mine are 4300 which is like white light, Im prety certain the different rating is just the colour temp of the light not meaning its more powerfull, just like white balance in a camera :p

NVRENUF 29-08-2008 06:04 PM

yeah the lumens do vary the power

the higher number you go the more blue it gets the less light power you actually have

Mister Two 29-08-2008 06:21 PM

Lumens is a measure of Light output. The higher the Lumens, the brighter the light is.

Kelvin is a measure of Colour Temperature. The higher the Kelvin, the closer the light colour is to violet.

[IMG]http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i149/Legacy234/e85e1630.jpg[/IMG]

NVRENUF 29-08-2008 06:35 PM

I always went of this chart showing the power out puts compared to the lumens.

which is showing the higher the lumens the less out put your getting



[IMG]http://www.nvrenuf.net/uploads/hid.jpg[/IMG]

TopGear 29-08-2008 06:49 PM

I see a different Temp light, cooler or warmer, that doesnt mean that its putting out more power, like midday is the brightest but it isnt as cold as tungstun etcm which is bluer.

NVRENUF 29-08-2008 06:58 PM

yeah its confusing i often find different graphs that say differnt results lol

going off above graph thats posted before mine id want 6000k but from experience and using them my self i prefer 4300k id even try 5000k.

so im not sure... all i know is i use 4300k and sell 4300k and im happy with them very bright, have put 4300 in all my families cars and they work great.

saturation 29-08-2008 07:14 PM

thats right, the problem with going high kelvin is that although the projection is probably the same distance, the actual viewable objects are reduced.

Its like being in a room with a blue light or a white light, chances are youll see more with the white.

rexhunta 29-08-2008 07:15 PM

i got 8000k, i'm thinking of going down to a 6000k.

Although i am one of them " uncool " people with them in my non projector headlights. Had them for bout 9 months, i don't mind them, out on the highways which the car is used most they are great for spotting 'roos.

Pete

NVRENUF 29-08-2008 07:24 PM

mate if your going to change id go for 4300k or 5000k more white. and you will see more.

I can get you just the globes if need be though id have to see your ballest first

rexhunta 29-08-2008 07:29 PM

eh got no chance of seeing my ballasts, they are inside the front bumper, took it all off to put them somewhere 1/2 safe. I don't think i even took a photo of them. I'll see if i did take one though.

NVRENUF 29-08-2008 07:30 PM

lol

ok well the ballest i sell are water proof can run them in a bucket of water so you can mount them anyway.

rexhunta 29-08-2008 07:36 PM

yeha these where full waterproof, plus i added in a bit more silicon around the joiners. hehe.

Only put them in there in case my magical high hp stock ej18 decides to finally kick it and spray oil everywhere.

NVRENUF 29-08-2008 07:39 PM

haha nice work .. well most hid ballest that i have seen are universal and should work but if you need globes let me know ill sort something out.

BALISTC 30-08-2008 09:39 AM

My ballasts are going to be mounted on the sheetmetal under the headlight assemblies...theres a good amount of space under there :)

Bakks 30-08-2008 03:02 PM

[QUOTE=rexhunta]i got 8000k, i'm thinking of going down to a 6000k.

Although i am one of them " uncool " people with them in my non projector headlights. Had them for bout 9 months, i don't mind them, out on the highways which the car is used most they are great for spotting 'roos.

Pete[/QUOTE]

Its got nothing to do with being uncool, its about blinding other road users. You WILL get better performance out of a good halogen bulb in your halogen housing.


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