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Old 11-11-2005, 09:54 AM
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Wow that looks amazing...

Saw it last night in the flesh too, and thought it was a real one... (Had a nice security guard floating around it when I was there)

But so many questions about it...

Does it actually run?
Who built the mock up?
Is it built to full WRC standards?
Can I buy it?
I heard it doesnt have any front pistons
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Old 11-11-2005, 10:03 AM
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i saw this car last night at rally oz.... it's running tarmac tyres and is pretty low for a rally car... maybe it's a mock-up of their new tarmac car now that they subaru are leaving rally....

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I fucking hope not, otherwise i should probably stop building up the evo now
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Old 11-11-2005, 11:15 AM
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that 2 inch pipe is no way the outlet from the tubo its in the wrong position, i think you should take a closer look at the pics, the inlet to the intercooler is underneath the black carbon air box
look at the size difference on the inlet and outlet of the intercooler, big size diff
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Old 11-11-2005, 11:43 AM
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how bout you explain why how the largest diameter possible will flow the most air with less lag?

Im saying the 2" pipe is good for ALOT of charge air, and being smaller obvisouly reduces the time it takes to reach the intercooler. After the cooler the air is more dense (since it is cooled) and you must allow enough room for this so thats why the piping always should be bigger (optimal=same size as throttle inlet)
im trying to get u to prove that 2" is optimal tode i dont believe u can.
im saying to flow the MOST air, u will need bigger piping, this will OBVIOUSLY come at the expense of lag. THe real Q is, what is the optimal size for piping?. U seem to have ur heart set on 2" for some unknown reason.

and tode correction - it has no front brake pistons.

boyles law is a simple relationship between pressure and volume of gases. bernoullis theory is an extension of boyles law that relates this with kinetic energy of the particles and heat. Obviously gas particles packed at a higher pressure will have more kinetic energy and will 'flow' faster. However, we will get to a point where the actual principle of energy and heat (faster particle movement) is restricted by (we are talking about FMICs now) the fact that we need to increase the size of the piping to allow greater volumes of air in. For example, let's make the piping 1/3". Sure the gas will flow (or move with velocity) fukn fast.. but the actual volume flowing thru it will be much less. I'm not disagreeing that smaller piping diameter wont reduce lag, SURE it WILL. that's basic common sense, but it comes at a huge cost of VOLUME with smaller diamter piping. Who's to say 2" is the ideal diameter? What application are we talking about. What lag is acceptable? there are so many questions.
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Old 11-11-2005, 12:00 PM
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and tode correction - it has no front brake pistons.

Obviously gas particles packed at a higher pressure will have more kinetic energy and will 'flow' faster. However, we will get to a point where the actual principle of energy and heat (faster particle movement) is restricted by (we are talking about FMICs now) the fact that we need to increase the size of the piping to allow greater volumes of air in.
hahaha
sorry "no front brake pistons"

LOL i see you are familiar with your year 12 physics, although you have mentioned a critical point about restriction ---> how much air can the turbo in use push?
So - if your talking about the magical infinate cfm turbo than what you said is 100% true and I owe you a blowjob
But im talking about my turbo (and the rally car) and im saying that for MY turbo a 2" pipe can support the amount of air that it will flow without having any restrictions. Again - i'l dig up the evidence and find out exactly what is the optimum pipe size. I think 2" is about right.
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Old 11-11-2005, 12:02 PM
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that 2 inch pipe is no way the outlet from the tubo its in the wrong position, i think you should take a closer look at the pics, the inlet to the intercooler is underneath the black carbon air box
look at the size difference on the inlet and outlet of the intercooler, big size diff
yer its the BOV return.
but i still stand by my point
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Old 11-11-2005, 12:09 PM
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instead of reducing the piping diameter.. why dont u just reverse the manifold?? that will reduce the amount of piping thus lag..
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Old 11-11-2005, 12:22 PM
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hey tode. i'd like a blow job regardless

how can u know the optimum pipe size for the turbo whilst totally disregarding the piping length and every other parameter?
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Old 11-11-2005, 12:37 PM
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WR Cars dont run BOVs. It's a potential boost leak. BOV not needed anyway as they flat shift. The chirping that you hear as they decellerate is made because the boost made by the antilag system has no where to go without the BOV venting.



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yer its the BOV return.
but i still stand by my point
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Old 11-11-2005, 01:06 PM
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2" is also the size of his... [insert funnies here]
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