S204 RAR vs evo 9 MR
 

Hey guys i was wondering which car would be better for track, daily and down the quater mile?

thanks

Get the evo, more people on here have them so it will be easier to get info on mods.

[QUOTE=magic1;519190]Get the evo, more people on here have them so it will be easier to get info on mods.[/QUOTE]

Being perth-wrx, I'd say getting info on modding an 06 sti would be relatively easy too.

EDIT: I'd go the S204. I dont know how many 9MR's were built, but as there were only 600 genuine S204's released, they're somewhat rare.

[QUOTE=magic1;519190]Get the evo, more people on here have them so it will be easier to get info on mods.[/QUOTE]

There is seriously bugger all difference in modding an S204 to a 05 STi as they both have 2.0lt and a lot of similar bits (kinda) its just the 204 is twin scroll and has different cams and a few other engine differences, so Its not like there is no info on here for you if you needed it.

To the OP, if you actually looking at getting one where are you getting this S204 from and do you mind sharing the details etc with us please. :icon_thum

[QUOTE=mattmy99;519191]Being perth-wrx, I'd say getting info on modding an 06 sti would be relatively easy too.

EDIT: I'd go the S204. I dont know how many 9MR's were built, but as there were only [COLOR="Red"]600[/COLOR] genuine S204's released, they're somewhat rare.[/QUOTE]

607 S204's :D

All depends how good the driver is....

be different,

get a yellow RA-R.


or if your keen on S204's, buy Jamie's car it's a bargain!

ditto on the yellow RA-R, only 300 made!

If you ask the Evo guys, they'll tell you the Evo.

It might ring true if you're comparingn JDM Evo's (MR's and such) to Aus delivered STi's, but the reality is, the JDM STi specials are 100% on par with the JDM Evo Specials.. just ask Jme as a good example, his S204 is as quick if not quicker than most Evo's out there.

Good luck getting either a RA-R or 9MR as a daily...

It's hard to ever compare cars like this, as they will end up modded. Then it comes down to who has the biggest budget as they are pretty much equal.

it wouldnt be for daily use, i was just wondering as i know that the evo's are better than the aus delievered sti's but was wondering how much different they are from the jdm ones

So are you looking at bringing one in as a race rally import then?

9MR will be the easiest to source and cheapest to buy out of the 3.

RA-R is on my must have list so I'm biased about which one you should really get. ;)

[QUOTE=tuna;519290]ditto on the yellow RA-R, only 300 made![/QUOTE]

this!!

[QUOTE=tuna;519290]ditto on the yellow RA-R, only 300 made![/QUOTE]

I believe there was only 50 units of the Astral Yellow RA-R's out of the total 300 RA-R's released making them extremely rare. :icon_thum

9MR = Just another evo (which isn't a bad thing, parts avaliable, large knowledge base and some good tuners here in Perth).

RA-R = More unique. That would be an absolute weapon on the street (read: Wayne + JME's S204's) :D

Btw can you import an RA-R for street use or is it strictly motorsport??

[QUOTE=xsv4rce;519393]9MR = Just another evo (which isn't a bad thing, parts avaliable, large knowledge base and some good tuners here in Perth).

RA-R = More unique. That would be an absolute weapon on the street (read: Wayne + JME's S204's) :D

Btw can you import an RA-R for street use or is it strictly motorsport??[/QUOTE]

No subaru unless bought in as a personal import owned by you for 12mths whilst you lived overseas can be bought in for general road use like mine.

Only other way is to get a GX and bring in a RA-R front and rear cut and do a conversion like jamies car but it will always be a conversion and not a genuine RA-R no matter what anyone says.

[QUOTE=JDM_STYLE;519396]No subaru unless bought in as a personal import owned by you for 12mths whilst you lived overseas can be bought in for general road use like mine.

Only other way is to get a GX and bring in a RA-R front and rear cut and do a conversion like jamies car but it will always be a conversion and not a genuine RA-R no matter what anyone says.[/QUOTE]

Christ...1 year overseas with the car, thats a fair bit of commitment (and a pita at the same time).

Thanks for the info Wayne

IMHO buying a S204 or RA-R for the race track is a waste. I tried to justify it in all sorts of different ways. In all forms of motorsport I can think of that you are likely to enter brakes are free. i.e. run whatever the hell you want. That takes the RA-R out of the picture. If you are half serious you will strip out the interior and put a cage in. This takes away any point of getting a S204 over a JDM MY07 STI which are plentiful and cheap. No point paying a premium for exclusivity if you are just going to take it all out anyways.

In terms of the Evo, the 7, 8, 9 shape has had far more motorsport success at amatuer level in this country than the GDB (MY01 - MY07) shape. They cost the same to build.

Brendon

[QUOTE=urabus;519484]In terms of the Evo, the 7, 8, 9 shape has had far more motorsport success at amatuer level in this country than the GDB (MY01 - MY07) shape. They cost the same to build.

Brendon[/QUOTE]

I think you have nailed it there Brendon. Have been in both camps and love my dak daks, but have stuck with an evo for track duties as I reckon you can get better performance for less $$ and they are bloody strong/reliable cars. I think the past history of results you mention speaks for itself. eg in Targa High Country 5 of the first 6 early modern cars were evos, although in modern the daks daks actually fared better, although possibly skewed by many late model evos running in 4WD showroom) For strict track duties I would stay in the evo camp. But for a nice daily that would be up for the odd track day its hard to go past a JDM spec dak dak, especially given evos are like bums these days.

If you're an ugly fucker like blaise or brendon, buy an evo, you'll fit right in, if your dashingly good looking like myself. buy a dak dak.

[QUOTE=EXPLICIT;519539]If you're an ugly fucker like blaise or brendon, buy an evo, you'll fit right in, if your dashingly good looking like myself. buy a dak dak.[/QUOTE]

Dont blame the player. Blame the game.

Group buy on an Evo X?

Brendon

Didn't Mitsu Aust sell 9MR's locally? I know 8MR's had to be brought in, but I thought 9MR's and 10MR's were locally sold?

I'm pretty sure the 9MR's are only JAP spec ones and were never sold here for general road use.

Maybe I'm thinking Evo 8MR's and ADM Evo 9's are similar cars.. fair enough, carry on.

(PS: Get a subaru, evo's are for girls / blaise / those who can't drive)

Just get a JDM SPEC C and you'll save yourself a shitload of money compared to an RA-R/S204.

Actually just buy an R205. :D

9MR's were not brought in to be sold locally, i'm leaning towards the evo side, they seem like the better option atm

9MR didnt make it to australian shores, although I am not sure what improvements they had over the ADM IX anyway. You arent able to import the IXMR (other than personal import) as the IX was imported for the domestic market unlike the 8 which was low volume only. The 8MR was an 8.5 and had some of the innovations of the IX (bigger turbo, ali roof, trick cams) but the 9MR didnt have any of the updates of the X given they are a completely different platform so possibly only a few cosmetic tweaks.

Would be very hard to get your hands on a genuine IX MR in much the same way it is to get hold of an RA-R etc. The subie would be a more special rare car to own. But the evo would hand it its arse. :)

I believe there is only two 9MR's in Aus -

Steve Jones's which has been ripped apart into one almighty track car

And a white one which is in NSW under race rally rego.

9MR's were never bought to Australia, and as mentioned cannot be imported for normal daily day to day rego unless they are a private import.

I would take a 9MR over a S204.

[QUOTE=teejay;519633]Steve Jones's which has been ripped apart into one almighty track car[/QUOTE]

I thought that it was stock? :eek:

[QUOTE=urabus;519650]I thought that it was stock? :eek:[/QUOTE]

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LOL

Hard to say but having used both for motorsport an EMO is pretty hard to beat, loved my dak dak but for $$$ spent a EVO is quicker.

Evo X FTW - close thread. Don't know why you'd bother with anything else TBH.

[QUOTE=low rider;519187]Hey guys i was wondering which car would be better for track, daily and down the quater mile?

thanks[/QUOTE]

So after 4 pages, with no further info as to how these cars would be purchased and what they would be used for, what exactly is the point of this thread?

It's a bit like saying, what's better a Bugatti Veyron or a McLaren F1?

If you are serious on brining a car in for b-reg, let us know what type of racing you are looking at doing as that would be the deciding factor.

[QUOTE=BLUES;519688]Evo X FTW - close thread. Don't know why you'd bother with anything else TBH.[/QUOTE]

Agree... If I wanted a B-reg tarmac rally car, Evo X RS with some TMR lovin' would be where my money would be going.

Seriously:

If you want to actually drive the car with real feedback, buy a dak dak.

If you want the car to do a majority of the work buy an evo. (or do what Blaise did, and take all the electronic talent out and replace it with mechanical diffs)

^^^^ Agreed with John.

Pointless thread as both cars are as good as unobtanium...but to continue a pointless discussion....If you are serious about winning and you are limiting yourself to those two choices, in my mind a late model evo is the only option, especially if you actually suck at driving as the electronic talent will give you quite a bit of help. ;) If it is more about how the car feels to you and makes you feel, then each to their own. A car sans electronic talent with lots of clunky mech diffs and a real organic feel is my choice. This could easily be an RA subie or an Evo. Having had both, my most recent choice was the evo as I believe they have other technical benefits over the subie that make them a better starting point.

As Bendon mentions below, the RS evos do away with the SAYC and replace it with mech diffs. They still have the cheater centre diff though.

[QUOTE=EXPLICIT;519756]Seriously:

If you want to actually drive the car with real feedback, buy a dak dak.

If you want the car to do a majority of the work buy an evo. (or do what Blaise did, and take all the electronic talent out and replace it with mechanical diffs)[/QUOTE]

X RS has no AYC of fail. She's all mechanical.

In relation to the topic old mate needs to tell us his budget and what he really wants to do and how far he wants to go ...... then we can all clue him in on what it actually costs to mount any sort of campaign and go from there.

Brendon

Cheers for the info guys budgets around 50k for the car, i'll be looking at doing hill climbs and evo vs wrx days, plus track days. I want something will be reliable ( I know thats not guaranteed with modifying a car). I know the evos are great for handling stock and that they are capable of producing good power but is it true that the subi is better for down the straight?

Buy JME's car

[QUOTE=low rider;519789]Cheers for the info guys budgets around 50k for the car, i'll be looking at doing hill climbs and evo vs wrx days, plus track days. I want something will be reliable ( I know thats not guaranteed with modifying a car). I know the evos are great for handling stock and that they are capable of producing good power but is it true that the subi is better for down the straight?[/QUOTE]
If you want to do track days, hill climbs etc.... why are you worried about the straight.

They are both the same, the more money you spend the faster they go. A late model Evo would be better down the straight, Cams (which cost s fortune in labour in a late model STi), Zorst, Tune and you'll be doing low 12's. You'll have to spend alot more than that on a late model STi.

Buy which ever one makes your dick hard. Seriously. It just doesnt matter about what it does on paper, its how much YOU enjoy driving it.

[QUOTE=CDR RA;519792]Buy which ever one makes your dick hard. Seriously. It just doesnt matter about what it does on paper, its how much YOU enjoy driving it.[/QUOTE]

+1 what Blaise said