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Old 19-07-2013, 02:08 PM
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I guess this will lead to the final nail in the Australian car industry coffin.

More policy on the run by the Labor government. Perhaps this will lead to the final nail in Labor's coffin ...
Liberal's to block FBT changes

Seems one party is out there trying to stop Australia being destroyed by policy making on the run.
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That is incorrect ... It was because of a pre-election promise made by the Liberal Party which they are hesitant to go change. Unlike - "They'll be no carbon tax under a government I lead ..."

I am aware that the position will change after the next election. Personally, I don't agree to more softening of our language and, as such, I don't agree to gay marriage but firmly believe in civil unions and equivalent rights.

Please refer to http://www.smh.com.au/comment/gay-marriage-versus-civil-partnerships
I believe in equivalent rights as well, that is why I don't understand why can't homosexuals call their relationship a "marriage". It doesn't matter if they are "essentially the same" just different names. well if they are the same then why can't they call it "marriage" in official terms.
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I believe in equivalent rights as well, that is why I don't understand why can't homosexuals call their relationship a "marriage". It doesn't matter if they are "essentially the same" just different names. well if they are the same then why can't they call it "marriage" in official terms.
I think there is too much modification of language to suit special interests and I am personally sick and tired of it. Some of the changes seem benign but this allows serious changes to occur without the populous thinking about the implications. For example ... "collateral damage" rather than "killed" or "murdered".

Marriage

noun

1 the formal union of a man and a woman, typically as recognized by law, by which they become husband and wife:she has three children from a previous marriage
[mass noun] the state of being married:women want equality in marriage
(in some jurisdictions) a union between partners of the same sex.

2a combination or mixture of elements:her music is a marriage of funk, jazz, and hip hop

Source http://oxforddictionaries.com/defini...age?q=Marriage
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I think there is too much modification of language to suit special interests and I am personally sick and tired of it. Some of the changes seem benign but this allows serious changes to occur without the populous thinking about the implications. For example ... "collateral damage" rather than "killed" or "murdered".

Marriage

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1 the formal union of a man and a woman, typically as recognized by law, by which they become husband and wife:she has three children from a previous marriage
[mass noun] the state of being married:women want equality in marriage
(in some jurisdictions) a union between partners of the same sex.

2a combination or mixture of elements:her music is a marriage of funk, jazz, and hip hop

Source marriage: definition of marriage in Oxford dictionary (British & World English)
If we are going to the dictionary to look for the meaning of marriage that was set by social protocols and religious institutions in the middle ages then I can go all the way back to ancient greece, rome or mesopotamia where same sex marriage was celebrated. one of the roman emperor, nero, married to two different men and the term marriage was actually used. the ban on same sex marriage didnt take place until christianity became the official religion of the roman empire. from my point of view, allowing same sex couples to get married is simply going back to your roots.
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Any law that's based on religion is fucken retarted.

So the man wearing the wizard hat & robe who sexually abuses kids is now the expert on who can get married??

If the gays want to get married, go for it. As long as they're not jamming their cock in my arse, I don't give a shit.
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I don't have any problems whatsoever with gay marriage, however right now in Australia there are far bigger issues at stake. Winning the ability to have same sex marriage, in my opinion, is not a win if Australia and the Australian people must suffer financially.
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I don't have any problems whatsoever with gay marriage, however right now in Australia there are far bigger issues at stake. Winning the ability to have same sex marriage, in my opinion, is not a win if Australia and the Australian people must suffer financially.
I dont think they are mutually exclusive as i doubt it costs that much to allow more people to get married. as i said before, i will vote liberal as soon as they support same sex marriage because I dont think i will be able to sleep at night knowing that I took part to deny happiness in other people's lives so that i can pay less tax
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Do you really think all this is about paying less tax?
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Do you really think all this is about paying less tax?
of course not, i work in finance so I have a pretty good understanding of the economy. that was just a figure of speech
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