44S tune
 

thinking of buying one of these, i shouldnt have any problems getting this tuned should i?

who's the best for this now days? preferably SOR

thanks

In the age of Re-flashing factory smart hardware I don't know why you'd bother going backward to a basic stand alone?

Why don't you just go with a Verso which maintains all factory functions, driveability, immobilizer & failsafes?

Not sure link man is Leigh Hynes works out of Busso but comes to Perth for tuning talk to the boys at Stechnic if keen


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[QUOTE=Rossco;683337]In the age of Re-flashing factory smart hardware I don't know why you'd bother going backward to a basic stand alone?

Why don't you just go with a Verso which maintains all factory functions, driveability, immobilizer & failsafes?[/QUOTE]
i thought a link would still retain the factory immobilser?

driveabilty, well as long as its reasonable i would be happy, lots of positive comments on here about them.

what do you mean by failsafes?

can a verso be setup to run without the maf?

as i said in my ecu wtd thread, i havent ruled out a verso at all, just interested inother options.

thanks

The 44s is old school nothing like the g3-g4 platform link is now running on not many will touch the old link ecu unless it's the newer version on the g4


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Failsafes as in factory staged rpm limiter, over boost protection, ignition timing self learn, knock retard & corrections (all parameters are tuner variable), fuel pump control (GD has a fuel pump speed controller driven off the ecu), power steering load sensing etc - just to name a few

Factory transponder immob is part of the ecu.

GD MAF isn't an issue & is reliable, you won't get remotely close to maxing it out with stock heads,cams & 205 bottom end. Only the GC8 film type MAF's are/were unreliable.

I don't understand why you'd be interested in giving it the flick when it won't be your limiting factor power-wise, nor be unreliable.

MAF systems take less time to tune (less $$), cold start is always spot on, off boost mapping is more accurate (MAF resolution) & they allow for more variables before someone needs to pull the lappie out & retune it.

The 44s is getting on a bit & the new Link G4 or Vipec are a different kettle of fish with much faster processors & more developed firmware......Even if they have no knock control out of the box -STILL-!!

[QUOTE=munya;683348]The 44s is old school nothing like the g3-g4 platform link is now running on not many will touch the old link ecu unless it's the newer version on the g4
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i know its oldschool, but that doesnt put me off that much (i really liked my old haltech e6A!)- now if finding a tuner that will tune it is an issue that could be a deal breaker.
thanks

[QUOTE=Rossco;683349]Failsafes as in factory staged rpm limiter, over boost protection, ignition timing self learn, knock retard & corrections (all parameters are tuner variable), fuel pump control (GD has a fuel pump speed controller driven off the ecu), power steering load sensing etc - just to name a few

Factory transponder immob is part of the ecu.

GD MAF isn't an issue & is reliable, you won't get remotely close to maxing it out with stock heads,cams & 205 bottom end. Only the GC8 film type MAF's are/were unreliable.

I don't understand why you'd be interested in giving it the flick when it won't be your limiting factor power-wise, nor be unreliable.

MAF systems take less time to tune (less $$), cold start is always spot on, off boost mapping is more accurate (MAF resolution) & they allow for more variables before someone needs to pull the lappie out & retune it.

The 44s is getting on a bit & the new Link G4 or Vipec are a different kettle of fish with much faster processors & more developed firmware......Even if they have no knock control out of the box -STILL-!![/QUOTE]

why do they get such a good rap on here then? (i know the posts are old, but that doesnt worry me much)

i thought the immob had its own ecu, so that is a negative aspect for me.

i know the maf has good points, but given the chance i prefer map for simplicity if i can.

i can get this ecu $350, tune would be 3 or 400 im guessing - seen posts on here saying verso from asg is $1200? - fairly decent price difference, but if its going to fuck with my immob & finding a tuner is going to be difficult i will give it a miss.
thanks a lot

MAF is a more simplistic set up & quicker to tune. MAP uses calculations 'guestimate' the actual airflow - A MAF measures it directly.

44s were good when there was no better option, Heck the Microtech Digi-2 Pro was a 'good' ecu back in my Mazda 13b turbo days!

when i said simplistic, i meant in the mechanical layout sense - straight intake to the pod - call it wank if you like, but i prefer it. also i like the idea of being able to see the real intake temp (after the compressor/intercooler) - i assume the 44s can use a proper intake temp sensor

the immob issue could be a big one for me, but will check if anyone will tune it on tuesday anyway.

thanks