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You have two options.
1. Do it properly and have a car that is much better to drive and reliable. 2. Cheep skate it and either blow it up or significantly reduce its life. Option 1 in the long run is much cheeper and a lot more stress free. Don't mess with boost/tune yourself unless you really know what you are doing. It will end in tears. P.S. When I sold my MY98 to city subaru the first thing they asked was if it had had a driver adjustable boost controller at any stage. If it had they didn't want it. There must be something in it. Think of the potential loss in resale to if you are likely to trade it rather than sell privately.
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Ok theres been a few engine failures because of boost controllers. More air, leaner it is. Leaner it is misdetination happens when the combustion occurs in the chamber. To put it simply, the more air you put in without adding the required fuel makes it go harder but can potentially kill it.
Look for (and although he has learnt painfully its a bog stock case) Evolutions dramas. Hate to point it out and dont mean to point a finger, but its a good indication of what will happen to you if you just throw more boost into a motor. -Get a fuel pump, -Decap/get new injectors, -Get a new ECU or Verso; -and get the boost upped whilst its all being done. This way you computer knows what the fuck is going on, you can support the increase in air with an increase in Fuel that makes the AFR controlled and engine lives. Spend $2000 now, save $4000 down the track. Or hey, put the boost to 2.5 bar and record the car on video for the 5 minutes you drive it.
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E4LUTION had an AFM problem causing the wrong signal being sent under hard boost!!!!!
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Either way, MBC are bad because.
No boost control from ecu when the engine is pinging, over heating, lean mixture, ecu fault detected or altitude compensation. So either way, without a proper boost controler under ecu control you are loosing out.
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after reading all this i might just leave my car the way it is... stock
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Car being left stock is a personal thing. Some people rather them stock then modified. The thing is, when doing mods, do a little research before hand, and it will save you the dramas. If it can be done, people have done it before, so maybe learn from their $4000 mistakes and go about it a safer way. Blowing up an engine isnt an everyday thing (for some motorsports people (and tuna from what sean tells me jks ) it is :P), it only happens when something isnt done properly (again exemption is motorsporting teams)
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If you do it properly, you will have no problems. Properly is getting quality parts, installed professionally / by someone in 'the know' and having it tuned safely. Buy your goodies, get them on, get a Verso and you're laughin. Simple as that.
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You're a noob mate and a forum is the best place to ask. sure the search button is there but this is a forum right??
stay away from a manual bleed valve its agricultural and not worth the money. If you go a controller go a decent electronic unit anywhere from around $300 would net you something consistent. Now the car will have a boost threshold built in, meaning if you exceed a predetermined boost pressure the engine management system will limit ignition cut to save the engine. This is 'generally' around the 17psi mark. If you can tune within that limit the car will respond noticeably. You might have to adjust it from time to time especially when its cooler (i.e. at night) when air is most dense. The factory ecu tune is quite fat so it will be quite safe. BUT a dyno run just to ensure the air fuel ratio's aren't too lean, just in case. But in all circumstances a reflash of the engine management system would net the best gain. Perhaps do a search under 'tune' 'ecu' 'verso' 'motec' 'ecutek', or skim through the history of the mechanicals section and it may give you some more insight. Best of luck and don't be afraid to ask if you're unsure.
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And remember, if it's pingin, you'r winnin!
.... BOOM
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I honestly dont see that point in MBC. Get it tuned @ Whatever PSI, you want half boost, 50% throttle.....You want full PSI, full throttle. Instead of wasting $450 on a MBC, spend an extra $300 on a second hand PowerFC/Link whatever.
And yes, ping is powa!
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