i just recieved the following reply and forwarded to mao at evolution R:


1 - Your car arrived to us to see why it wasnt running with stripped wires hanging out of the dash everywhere which I told you and you agreed needed to be cleaned up. Obviously between us tuning it and you bringing it back someone or yourself has pulled it apart and done whatever looking for an issue or perhaps creating one. Your car didn't run so we plugged in the stock ECU and it ran. Then we plugged your power FC into another car to check and it ran. This took 10 minutes to do and you were then advised of this and we suspected a wiring issue as both ecus were ok and your cars wiring was a mess. Due to our current work load we were not in a position to fix this and you towed it away. Whether it was the wiring or not I don't know as we never went that far with the diagnosis.

2 - If your car did have an AFM failure it was after the tune as it would have failed somewhere between the moment you picked it up on the 15th of October and 3 weeks later (not 4 days) November 5th when you towed it in for us to look at.

3 - Looking at your 177hp curve I would guess that it has been run up with the boost turned down to give a low power/torque figure. This is typical of evolution R but not very smart as obviously we have records of the last run done on our dyno. The curve is unusually smooth for a car tuned with a faulty AFM. If we tuned it with a faulty AFM it would be so rich or lean it wouldn't rev with new AFM. It would be interesting to see the boost/AFR power curve of the "177hp" run.

4 - Attached is the chart from the last run done on our dyno. You will see that it made 241hp and 314nm - bit different to 177hp and 227nm. There is also a mixtures chart showing AFM working correctly at the time of tuning.

5 - Your new tune also appears to be about 500rpm laggier. Have you changed anything or is it just tuned poorly? It appears you would be running more boost due to the peaky torque curve which would explain a difference in the peak figures.

Look forward to receiving furthur documentation from evoR regarding this.

Feel free to forward this to all parties/communities involved in this argument inc public communities you have mentioned


Thanks

Nic


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& what are trying to prove by posting this on here?

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As soon as I saw the power output at 177hp pre-tune, my thoughts were hmmmmmmmm, this isn't right.

I also have the popcorn at hand to see what the end result is here.

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Riceman...my very strong advice to you is to remove both of today's posts from this (public) forum....this is not the way to get issues resolved.
Firstly, ASG is a very reputable workshop and as such would not try and stuff you around for no apparent reason. I can't comment on Evolution R since I've never had anything to do with them.
The best way to resolve such issues is by sensible face to face negotiation....Nic and Sean are both very reasonable guys, so why don't you talk to them in a less demanding manner as illustrated in your email.

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I think he's perhaps giving a heads-up in regards to the practices of....

edit: perhaps not

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ps: I agree with Nauli's advice very strongly

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LOL great reply by Nic! I would lock this, but I am enjoying it muchly!

Good ol Mao talking shit once again
great way to get customers.... Fukn loser