How many kw PIGSti?
 

We all no Mr Compulsive is getting his car tuned this week. Post up how many kw you think he will make, below is a list I think of his mods:
3" zorst
Silicon intake
TD05/06 20G turbo
Catch can and boost solenoid
GT spec headers
Process West FMI & CAI
TEK 3 ECU

I assume you are gonna run 17-18 psi and fatish AFRs (11:1?)
I'm picking 250kw an hopefully all ring lands in tact:D

230-240kw I reckon :)

Ps. Joe man - hurry up and run that shitta in!
Pps. Jaron - shotgun a ride ;)

Haha Dan, its run in!! Just needs tune now when I get off my lazy ass..

Which dyno we talkin??

I reckon on a DD, he'd be lookin at around 225kw.

Not sure about mainline.

Dynapack? Prob around 335-340

Yeh I am thinking I will get a couple of tunes to flick between. 240 I would be stoked with. I am sure it could easily go 250+ though.
I have 211kw atw without the turbo and headers

[QUOTE='[BANNED]']230-240kw I reckon :)

[/QUOTE]

^^Me too!

Id say up to 240kw ATW. He'll be coming close to maxing out the standard injectors (550cc) though. at 240kw he'll probably be sitting on about 85-90% duty of the injectors. Okay if hes not gonna go any futher but Id still recommend a injector upgrade. Or at least high flow the standard ones.

i agree with joe.. having 2.5ltrs only makes the power come on earlier... the 20g would have a limit of around 220kw atw or similar power output to joes.

The green however which i had on my car made 233kw atw whilst it made 240kw atw on todes car.. This turbo has a bigger exhaust side asfaik. So i dont think ull be beating that..

240Kw in the mainline Dyno.
Jaron does troy have any dyno graphs of the PSR460?

[QUOTE=trainwrex]i agree with joe.. having 2.5ltrs only makes the power come on earlier... the 20g would have a limit of around 220kw atw or similar power output to joes.

The green however which i had on my car made 233kw atw whilst it made 240kw atw on todes car.. This turbo has a bigger exhaust side asfaik. So i dont think ull be beating that..[/QUOTE]

20G will be responsive as hell on a 2.5, but will definitely run out up top on the 2.5..

On a 2 litre, the 20G pulls better up top.

Nah only the PSR400?? has been tested AFAIK.

SiriX has one.... made 220kw odd?

[QUOTE=Sethor]240Kw in the mainline Dyno.
Jaron does troy have any dyno graphs of the PSR460?[/QUOTE]
Nah he was going to try and source the dyno graphs from America but haven't heard back.
I think I am the first in OZ to test the PSR460.

Reckon it will be around 245 kw

[QUOTE='[BANNED]']Nah only the PSR400?? has been tested AFAIK.

SiriX has one.... made 220kw odd?[/QUOTE]

I think you mean the PSR440 (TD05-20G 8cm) which is same as the GT pumps GTPS02, PSR have the PSR440 rated 15Hp more than the GTPS02 so the 460hp rating might be abit optimistic for the PSR460 but it should pull at least 240kwatw (233Kw has been done on a DD dyno with 2.5 with a GTPS02).

Very keen to see the terminals these cars will run - not really interested in the dyno figures as such. So many cars with "awesome" power running shit times...

225-230kw atw on a Mainline Dyno.

I agree with JMAX - 220-230 on the Mainline. What injectors do the pigs run?

they run these
[IMG]http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/9642/dsc05629fs9.jpg[/IMG]

Gee.. by the looks of that picture.. im guessing 1000000cc injectors?


Seriously, they are Top feed , 550cc i believe

How much power can you run from 550cc injectors at say 90% IDC?

i reckon, with the 20G on the 2.5......a genuine 225kw atw mainline dyno.

Limitations will be fuel and possibly turbo size.

[QUOTE=Intra]Gee.. by the looks of that picture.. im guessing 1000000cc injectors?

[/QUOTE]

look at the color...

[QUOTE=stinga]How much power can you run from 550cc injectors at say 90% IDC?[/QUOTE]

<220

So what do you guys reckon???? Should I not wait to see that the stock injectors are maxed and just order some more now??? The injectors will surely be maxed if I am aiming for 240kw anyway???
What do you think?

standard ones can be high flowed to around 800cc by de-capping them. A good injector specialist should be able to make sure that they all flow the same and with good spray patterns.

There seems to be a bit of conjecture on exactly what size they are. What are your IDCs at 211kw ? If they are above 75% I think you will definetly need to upgrade....

[QUOTE=stinga]There seems to be a bit of conjecture on exactly what size they are. What are your IDCs at 211kw ? If they are above 75% I think you will definetly need to upgrade....[/QUOTE]
I am pretty sure they are at about 80%. The STi has 550cc top feed injectors

I was in Sirix's car the other day with the Delta Dash not showing above 68% Duty Cycle, don't know off the top of my head at what rpm, but only 16.5 psi and he pulled 219kw ath.

sure the stock Injectors should be good for atleast 230kw??

[QUOTE=wai]look at the color...[/QUOTE]

Ok, i'm looking at the colour..

Now you tell me what cc they are.

im sure there is a colour code for inj - they must be 1000cc

i'll say a generous 250kw

then bang!

[QUOTE=LegacyGT]im sure there is a colour code for inj - they must be 1000cc

i'll say a generous 250kw

then bang![/QUOTE]
I'll say your an idiot!

Are you sure that they are 550cc?
The pink top feed injectors they had in the 02-05 STi's are 565cc I dunno why they would a 15cc gap between sizes.

[QUOTE=stinga]How much power can you run from 550cc injectors at say 90% IDC?[/QUOTE]

300ish hp at 95% IDC is what i managed

[QUOTE=PIGSTi]I'll say your an idiot![/QUOTE]

I say you have no idea what you are doing Jaron, i'd have to agree with Fred on this one.

HOW on GOD's green earth can you tell CC's by a colour. It's not a bloody resistor chart which we take a red stripe and a blue stripe and a gold stripe to register tolerance.

Dont be silly , if you are unsure get em flowed first!

Now... lets go in a little more indepth.

THE 06 WRX and STI both have in the ecu a calculation scalar similar to the STI pink injectors of a MY05. Which is 498cc , which is pretty darn close to 500cc like the previous year's ecu model.

[QUOTE=PIGSTi]I'll say your an idiot![/QUOTE]


awww i was kidding. its a race between you and wai for the first bangage!

[QUOTE=Sethor]Are you sure that they are 550cc?
The pink top feed injectors they had in the 02-05 STi's are 565cc I dunno why they would a 15cc gap between sizes.[/QUOTE]

Usually for tolerance differences..

i'd would rather underate a injector and have a little more left in em, instead of run them on the edge and hope it does not max out.. but who knows.. these subi enginners.. crazy people at times.

[QUOTE=Intra]I say you have no idea what you are doing Jaron, i'd have to agree with Fred on this one.

HOW on GOD's green earth can you tell CC's by a colour. It's not a bloody resistor chart which we take a red stripe and a blue stripe and a gold stripe to register tolerance.

Dont be silly , if you are unsure get em flowed first!

Now... lets go in a little more indepth.

THE 06 WRX and STI both have in the ecu a calculation scalar similar to the STI pink injectors of a MY05. Which is 498cc , which is pretty darn close to 500cc like the previous year's ecu model.[/QUOTE]
I not doing anything MATE! Race Torque is, if they tell me I need new injectors I will get them.

No, im saying that if you are gonna call someone an idiot maybe understand what your arguing about first before you shoot them down in flames.

[QUOTE=LegacyGT]im sure there is a colour code for inj - they must be 1000cc

i'll say a generous 250kw

then bang![/QUOTE]

Mate I called him an idiot because of the 'then bang' comment! Not because of the cc comment!

mate... awesum thread, on topic or lock.

That bang is completely is justified IMHO.

What happens when you run out of fuel... its not gonna go "ahhwoooogah" like a kaxxon now is it..

Again.. i still think if you are unsure.. get it flowed first.