Perth-WRX.com  

Go Back   Perth-WRX.com > Technical > Mechanicals
Register Diddy Kart ArticlesAll AlbumsBlogs FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search


Welcome to Perth-WRX, click here to register!

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 31-01-2007, 08:50 PM
mattmy99's Avatar
Sign me up!
Subaru Tech Division
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: 6056 and 4000
Posts: 1,814
Thanks: 11
Thanked 35 Times in 25 Posts
mattmy99 knows their stuff
Default MY99 major engine dramas

hey guys, having some major dramas with my 99 wagon. for those of you who dont know me and my car, it's a 99 wagon, vf34, power fc, FMIC, 3" TBE with standard pump and injectors. i was (stupidly i know) cutting up in my back paddock, was very sideways and well, pretty much didn't emerge from the dust. when i tried to start her up again, it was like i had run out of fuel, ran a few test over the phone with Zac (Cypher Industries), and as far as we could tell, it was fuel orientated (obviously) but without him actually looking at it, it was hard to tell. possibly pump, or ignition solinoid or something similar. the various test we did with the power FC controller all checked out ok... Anyway, cypher's pretty busy at the moment, and i work 4 and 1 rosters, so would be ages till i could get it in to them.

cut a long story short(ish), took it round to race torque this arvo, verdict is, i've got no compression at all on 3 cylinders and only 120psi on the 4th. apparantly i leaned out big time, and have melted pistons and all sorts of shit. (haven't opened her up yet, so dont really know)

pretty much chasing a 2nd hand ej20 (dont want anything else coz i wanna keep the power FC), or some advice on parts for rebuilding a bloody tough ej20. i know, i know, i should start by upgrading the fuel pump this time

thanks for your help guys.

Matt
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 31-01-2007, 08:56 PM
Mister Two's Avatar
Perth WRX Old Skool Cool Dude
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Surface of the Sun
Posts: 4,042
Thanks: 5
Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts
Mister Two at standard level
Default

since you have to replace the engine short block, you may as well buy a brand new bugeye STI ej207 block (apparantly the best of the ej207s) from Subaru. Its around $2750+gst brand new already built with forged pistons. Its probably the cheapest and most hassle free way of getting a strong motor with forged pistons.

All you need is a set of head gaskets + labour to install it. Unless you can do it yourself and save yourself a lot of money.

Also, once your done, Install a walbro gss342/341 500hp fuel pump. Id say that is the weak point and is probably the cause of the lean out. The only other cause may have been when going very very sideways, low fuel levels could have cause the fuel in the tank to flow away from the pump inlet and cause a lean out. Perhaps a surge tank setup may be a good idea if you like sideways action alot.

I would also suggest a dyno run to check AFRS and possibly a re-tune with slightly richer mixture to stay on the safe side since you like cutting it up in the back paddock.

Good luck with the re-build.
__________________
RS Liberty - Because WRX's are only good for parts...

Last edited by Mister Two; 31-01-2007 at 09:04 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 31-01-2007, 09:08 PM
BLUES's Avatar
Flat Four Father
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Pokerstars.com, FullTiltPoker.com
Posts: 2,180
Thanks: 2
Thanked 34 Times in 30 Posts
BLUES at standard level
Default

Have a read of this - http://www.perth-wrx.com/vb/showthre...highlight=ej20
__________________
MY09 Evo X - 1.6bar@3500rpm - got lag?
Barbagallo - 56.03 (S); 1:08.09 (L)
Collie - 50.77
Possibly the most under-driven Evo X in the world??
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-02-2007, 01:07 AM
teejay's Avatar
Perth WRX Old Skool Cool Dude
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Burnout Central
Posts: 8,718
Thanks: 102
Thanked 189 Times in 152 Posts
teejay is a guruteejay is a guruteejay is a guru
Send a message via MSN to teejay
Default

EJ207 = strengthened not forged
Walbros eat dick

Everything else he said is worthy of note
__________________
I am only an asshole on the internet :)

[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-02-2007, 10:05 AM
Adr3naL1N's Avatar
Subaru Tech Division
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Bullcreek
Posts: 1,294
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Adr3naL1N at standard level
Send a message via MSN to Adr3naL1N
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mister Two
since you have to replace the engine short block, you may as well buy a brand new bugeye STI ej207 block (apparantly the best of the ej207s) from Subaru. Its around $2750+gst brand new
.
that seems abit cheap, what do you get with the block exactly??
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-02-2007, 10:32 AM
Josh's Avatar
Subaru Tech Division
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Perth
Posts: 1,145
Thanks: 1
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
Josh at standard level
Send a message via MSN to Josh
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by teejay
EJ207 = strengthened not forged
Walbros eat dick

Everything else he said is worthy of note
The MY02 STi EJ207 contains forged pistons with a semi-closed deck block.
__________________
you mirin?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-02-2007, 10:47 AM
EVL WRX's Avatar
Subaru Tech Division
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Perf
Posts: 1,223
Thanks: 1
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
EVL WRX at standard level
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Adr3naL1N
that seems abit cheap, what do you get with the block exactly??
Short block so just the bottom end..

Regents sell them around that price, cheaper than going through Subaru dealers too...
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-02-2007, 10:47 AM
[BANNED]'s Avatar
STI Master
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Bakalakadaka St
Posts: 732
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
[BANNED] at standard level
Send a message via MSN to [BANNED]
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by teejay
EJ207 = strengthened not forged
Walbros eat dick

Everything else he said is worthy of note
What clown told you it wasn't forged?

The 207 has forged internals. Always has.
__________________
I don't mind coming to work, but that eight hour wait to go home is just bullshit....
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-02-2007, 10:58 AM
Pimpreza's Avatar
Flat Four Father
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Slums of Warnbro.
Posts: 2,122
Thanks: 4
Thanked 32 Times in 31 Posts
Pimpreza at standard level
Default

I have a spare 99 block (8 bolt) in perfect cond if yours is shagged & you decide to re-build yours. $250
0422317000
__________________
Beaten up old 98 Gen 2 Liberty, 13.0, stock V3 STI running gear.
07 Transit motor home
69 VF & 70 VG Valiants needing full restoration
Yamaha Zooma 50cc rocket hopefully going with the Transit.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-02-2007, 11:19 AM
pmh's Avatar
pmh pmh is offline
Sign me up!
Barge Master
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Japan
Posts: 2,116
Thanks: 2
Thanked 34 Times in 24 Posts
pmh at standard level
Default

ej207 prices is over $3000. Close to $3200 to be exact
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
dramas, engine, major, my99


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




Welcome to Perth-WRX, click here to register!

All times are GMT +8. The time now is 01:58 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO