If we were some amazing planned design in the first place I might agree, but with the random nature of our being I just find that to be crazy talk sir.

I mean, to think that there's a vengeful, all powerful being watching our every move as opposed to life being the end result of some random events, I'll go with the random events every time. I refuse to think that someone could potentially be damned to an eternity of suffering for coveting my neighbours sheep, or even doing something productive on a Sunday.

The big problem I see, the serious religious nuts (or as I sometimes like to call them, Jesus Buffs) are not living for the here and now. They're living for an afterlife, do what you will as long as you accept Je-sus as your lord and saviour and once you die, everything will be awesome. Promise.

It's that kind of weird-ass thinking that leads to people blowing up buildings with W26 suitcase bombs, or fuck their receptionist while maintaining a pious attitude because they've got a sleezy minister that will absolve them of their sins the very next day. If people are thinking "Shit, if I ask for forgiveness, I'll get it, do what I will!" or "If I kill these whiteys, I'll get a whole shit tonne of virgins in heaven!".

People need to realise they can just be good people without having some imaginary character hanging over thier shoulder with an armpit full of poorly translated text screaming out "If you do that shit, I'll fuckin' spank your ass!" while wagging an almighty finger.

Bottom line, just be a good person. Leave the fairy tales to the Brothers Grimm, they did it better.

Just post the "evidence" in public, or I will. Not much point making claims in public then not having the fortitude to back it up sir.

While you're at it, prove the existence of God (or any designing supernatural being) to me and I'll sign over my house to you. Scouts honour.

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Dude, you attack scientific theory, with mounds upon mounds of supporting evidence, telling me that kids should be taught religious doctrine instead of opening their minds to the world around them. That insults me no end. I don't think I've posted anything insulting yet, but if you open a big can of worms, don't get upset at what crawls out, yeah?

Again, please share it with the class. I'm sure the scientific community would be glad to know they can go back to shooting off bottle rockets and eating jelly with their spare time now that there's clear, undeniable proof of the existence of god.

I'm trying to keep a creative argument going, did you only want to hear answers from people that have taken Jesus into their hearts? Gimme a break son.

That proof, chop chop.

I go to the Church of Touching Cloth & pray with Father Will U Pffistmee every Sunday, we have fun taking the Alter boys on camps, we are a branch of the Catholic Church and our motto is "Mum's the Word"
Pffuck Religeon, it's Pffucking the world.

"If I kill these whiteys, I'll get a whole shit tonne of virgins in heaven!".

wow is that true?.. HRMMM !!

See. I told you that they make a firm decision.

That's his one!

Islam, killing Christians or enemys of Islam gets you 72 virgins in heaven, or there-abouts. It's bloody late so I am going to bed but I'll dig up some quotations and whatnot tomorrow.

**edit: Just a quick question for those in the class who are sure we're designed, built, made, etc by a higher power.

Why do men have nipples? They serve no purpose in the scheme of mating or rearing young, why are they there? What kind of designer leaves such items just hanging around?

Ponder that while I dream of sugar plums and other such dandy things.

Cheerio,
-Cameron

I believe in sex.

some peoples posts r too long to read!

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I tend to think that the human being, or any other living thing for that matter, IS an amazing design. I would like to see a lab full of the world's best brains with huge budgets, and using nothing but the 106 elements of the periodic table, produce one single living cell in a test tube.

It's always gonna be a highly emotional subject on all sides this one, I think I'll stop on this post & sit on the sidelines for a bit.

Respect to all...

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hey evil, i'l have your the answers to your questions tomorrow, and anyone else

to each there own!

RESPECT

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