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oh god, are you actually going to use the wolf?
Yes we are using the Wolf. Not ideal however the owner is on a tight budget. The car will run without anti lag or rotational idle and we have wound the boost back from 16PSI to around 10PSI so everything should be OK for Forest Rally. Later in the year we'll see if there is enough in the development budget to install Vipec.
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racing on a restricted budget is always a recipe for fail :/

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The latest update of the 180SX build. Nissan 180SX Rally Car- Interior works part 2

Just for you Jester I have included pics.

Disagree with limited budget ending in fail. Many, many people race on restricted budgets and do very well. Members of our team have won numerous championships, classes and events with very tight budgets.
Last year we won the Darling 200 Rally with a MKII Escort running on cactus rally tyres and a pretty much a stock Pinto the owner had found on Gumtree as the "race engine" was lunched at the Safari Rally just a few weeks earlier.
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Needs tower to tower welded together/welded in rollcage if you want that shell to last at the speeds Geoff drives. (That's my opinion, that a better cage will save money in the long term as the shell will remain straight after numerous rallies and be repairable after damage)
That coupe is the wrong shape to rely on a cage bolted to the floorpan with clamped side bars for any rigidity. I didn't even think they still met current rules (double crossover in roof etc) or are you using an older logbook?
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The latest update of the 180SX build. Nissan 180SX Rally Car- Interior works part 2

Just for you Jester I have included pics.

Disagree with limited budget ending in fail. Many, many people race on restricted budgets and do very well. Members of our team have won numerous championships, classes and events with very tight budgets.
Last year we won the Darling 200 Rally with a MKII Escort running on cactus rally tyres and a pretty much a stock Pinto the owner had found on Gumtree as the "race engine" was lunched at the Safari Rally just a few weeks earlier.
Yeah, I guess there is a difference between being on a "tight budget" and "cheaping out on everything"
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Needs tower to tower welded together/welded in rollcage if you want that shell to last at the speeds Geoff drives.
Agreed Doug, however not my decision.
The weld in cage was slightly cheaper to buy, however more expensive to install so the bolt in cage was the option.
CAMS have changed the way rally log books are issued. For national events and above, the cage requires diagonal roof bar and double side intrusion. For State round and below, the cage design has not changed much and bolt in cages such as the one fitted to the 180 comply. The bar sizes have all been increased in the new regs. Now a rally log book will display to what level a car can compete.
We had intended to weld in extra bars from the front legs to the front struts to tie the towers in better. That was until the cage arrived and we found the front legs meet the floor in front of the dash rather than through the dash like some bolt in cages of different brands. The seam welding should help somewhat and we'll keep our eye on the shell to see how it goes.
The 180 was built for several reasons, not least that the supply of cheap 2Dr Escort shells has been severley depleted in WA after the last few years of rallying with "Ari Vatanen" behind the wheel.
At least S13 shells and panels are cheap and readily available. If we have to re-shell the car, the bolt in cage can be removed and re-used if it is not damaged.
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A bit of carbon wrap could help make that switch panel look less agricultural
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The weld in cage was slightly cheaper to buy, however more expensive to install so the bolt in cage was the option.
So many advantages to a structural cage over a bolted and clamped cage that a week of extra work would be worth it.......and that's before you even throw crew safety in to the mix. Anyhoo, that's Geoff's call.
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A bit of carbon wrap could help make that switch panel look less agricultural
In a road car where looks may be important perhaps. In a rally car, function over form. Read this post: Nissan 180SX Rally Car- Spare wheel mount, boot latches and cage install has a bit of an explanation about why things such as the switch panel are done the way they are.
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Looks are of supreme importance on rally cars.
It's rule number 1!

1/ Look good.
2/ refer to rule #1.
3/ win.
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