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Old 03-01-2007, 02:03 PM
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there is PLENTY of gas, and a HUGE volume to come for ast least the next 100 years. more reserves are being found deeper and deeper. there is something like over 200 trillion litres of proven reserves that arent tapped yet. the only problem is government needs to provide the infrastructure to support its usage.
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Old 03-01-2007, 04:47 PM
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New pipeline = change. Dont forget change is bad, we live in perth remember?.. Train line, raffles building, and new developments are really really really bad

Go the nuclear!

No seriously.. We're slowly getting cleaner with gas, wind, solar and some hydro already online supplying WA's power. Climate change debates are starting to peak, no doubt another 5 years and wind farms will be a common sight along the WA coastline. Following/being a part of the industry for the past 6 yrs wouldn't make me say otherwise. Hydrogen is too far away to be considering seriosuly for a while yet....

Bring on the electric cars, biofuels, renewables, nuclear and gas turbines. It's about time.

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Old 03-01-2007, 06:27 PM
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Go nuclear, wind farms are a joke production wise and create visual and audible pollution.
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Old 03-01-2007, 08:13 PM
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but do you really want the govt to build a nuclear power station just outside perth to satisify the electricity hungry cars of the future ?
Yes, double yes and holy fuck yes damnit, skippy.

Nuclear is inevitable and there's effectively bugger all wrong with it.

If it wasn't for the hippy pricks and the pandering, spineless political clowns spending our money I like to think we would have made real progress on nuclear power years ago.
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New pipeline = change. Dont forget change is bad, we live in perth remember?.. Train line, raffles building, and new developments are really really really bad

Go the nuclear!
You seem to be forgetting the Hillary's boat harbour, Marmion Rd extensions, Observation City, that disgusting eyesore in North Freo etc etc, they have been such a blight on society, .
Nuke all the way.
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Old 04-01-2007, 12:15 AM
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Go nuclear, wind farms are a joke production wise and create visual and audible pollution.
Wind farms rock. Designed properly they are a disturbance to no-one. Take Albany for example. It takes a bit of getting used to, but you'll find that for some, they are a proud icon that people would love to have nearby.

The technology is there, its proven, it works.
Forget what anyone says, renewables aren't the key, but they are definately here to make a whole lot of change and oh s%*^ do they have potential...

Nuclear will have the same fate as oil. Reserves are huge, but once reactor installations grow, thats it, you can see another oil-crisis coming only for the supply of uranium this time. But it has huge potential in bridging the gap between current (coal, gas, etc) and future technologies.

Unfortunately politicians and a fair portion of the general public are still not fully aware of both sides of the arguments for new energy sources, be it nuclear, renewables, biofuels, etc. But they sit there happily bitching about a windfarm looking bad or some fish being killed by a hydro electric installation.

Meanwhile flyash and smoke coming out of smokestacks is a-ok. Well good luck to us all if thats the case

Enough of the greenie shit - Bring on the Tesla Motors beast, give some of our rexes a descent run for our money haha.
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Albany's wind farm may provide 75% of their annual requirements. It will always need to be backed up by another power supply. Duplicated power systems are not economical but 75% is much higher than I first thought...But would you really want one in your back yard: swish swish swish?
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Old 04-01-2007, 11:41 AM
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Albany's wind farm may provide 75% of their annual requirements. It will always need to be backed up by another power supply. Duplicated power systems are not economical but 75% is much higher than I first thought...But would you really want one in your back yard: swish swish swish?
Any day - There already is a small one swishing away in my backyard.

What the extra power system is becomes the key question, but then again that's 75% less coal you had to burn (assuming all conditions are perfect). You'll be amazed what some of the wind/diesel systems in WA are doing. Some of them are reaching 100% wind penetration intermittently and holding up to 80% for most of the time thereafter. That's a huge contribution, and saves millions of litres of diesel from being burnt in the process.
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I spent a bit of time in (continental) Europe, wind farms everywhere. Apparently (back in 2004) it was more epensive to farm wind than anything else, but as with any new technology it should become cheaper as more countries commit to it.

I'm for nuclear power though, so much energy and so little waste. The waste only lasts for around 10 thousand years anyway (compared to 100k to millions of years for fossil fuels)!

Kind of off the topic a bit though. But buying an electric car won't lower carbon emissions until the greater power generators move away from burning fossil fuels.
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A review of the tesla
http://www.autobloggreen.com/2008/01...esla-roadster/

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I started to explore the upper half of the AC induction motor's 13,000 rpm range and found that what I felt from the right seat previously was no fluke.
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