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Old 01-02-2008, 02:05 PM
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The 580x can wirelessly trigger the 430ex great for a portable studio lighting .
or needing more fill around when one flash isn't enough.
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Yeah see i went 24-70 because of the F2.8 where as 24-105 is only F4

good combo

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If have the money and have wide get a 16-35L
Is the 24 - 70 an L or EF lens? I can only find the EF ones on ebay.

What kind of fisheye lens would go well with a 5D? I would have loved to have one in Paris

I think I may upgrade just one lens . Too expensive to do it all.
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Old 01-02-2008, 03:18 PM
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no L series lens will be EF-S but they will fit on the 400D

http://www.praimaging.com.au/d41-56-...-f28l-usm.html

http://www.praimaging.com.au/d156-56...8l-is-usm.html
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L lenses have the Red Ring on them easy way of telling.
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L lenses have the Red Ring on them easy way of telling.
Ahh! Was wondering why they weren't white. Spot the noob ppl ..

Fisheyes, anyone?
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the 70-200 and larger L series are white lens !

Fish eye im not to sure on

16-35 F2.8 L is an ausome lens and on the 5D full frame its sooo wide.. with out any distortion like the fish eye.

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I was faced with the same decision late last year when I decided to stop taking photos as a money making sideline. Sold up my 1dMk2N and bought a 40d rather than a 5d.

Bought the 4d because I feel that it is a better all rounder. Whilst you can shoot action with the 5d, the 3fps framerate makes it a bit of a chore sometimes. Image quality wise between the two you'd need to be very anal indeed to see any difference in print unless you start blowing the prints up to ridiculous sizes. And for reference I've had 8mb 20d and 1d images blown up to 16x24 and they've been as sharp as a tack even up close. Technique and lenses make more of a difference when the difference in resolution is so marginal.

My original plan was to buy the 40d as a hold over till Canon released a 5d replacement in the hope that it would have the larger sensor and a higher frame rate, but I can honestly say that I won't be bothering now. The 40d is more than good enough.

Don't fall into the trap of thinking you need the higher priced camera to take good photos. Buy the 40d and stick the extra money you were going to blow on a body in an L series lens. You'll see more improvement from the lens than the larger sensor and a few extra pixels.

Just for laughs here's some shots taken with different bodies. Admittedly they are only small low res shots, but even at full res on my machine here at home there isn't $1500 or in the case of the 1dMk3 $5-6k difference in quality to my eyes. 5d is no different.

40d + 300 prime



1dMk2N + 70-200 2.8 IS



1dMk3 + 300 prime

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5D would be me my pick...
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Dad just upgraded from a 20D to the 40D. He was tossing up between the 40D and the 1D but figured that there is not a huge technical difference in the cameras. the 1D is fully o-ringed etc so the service life is much longer but as said above he has spent bulk on lenses and figures that the bodies are just about throw away items nowadays.

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I totally agree with what WRC said, I shoot with a 5D but my main Intrest is Landscapes. there is alot of differences between a 40d and a 1d but an Amatuer wouldnt notice ive seen really good photos taken with a 350d and Kit lens!!! the 40d and 5d are two different cameras, 40d crop sensore faster fps, 5d full frame 3fps, cropping a 5d photo to 40d size you will only have a 5mp or so photo.

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