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Old 18-10-2012, 02:39 PM
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Cool upgraded injector values

A vr5 STi njector is rated at 550cc right? So if swaping for a 720cc , what would be the new values?
Should be less than 100% and buggers me about the latency values too. . .
Currently I just put it at 65% and +0.03ms BUT its still spewing black smoke at the exhaust AND u could smell fuel frm the engine bay
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The yellow injectors you pulled out should be 440's not 550's I believe.
The injector size correction number seems close enough. It should be 61 though. The latency correction will depend on the brand of injector that you had / changed too.

Is your MAF ok?
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The yellow injectors you pulled out should be 440's not 550's I believe.
The injector size correction number seems close enough. It should be 61 though. The latency correction will depend on the brand of injector that you had / changed too.

Is your MAF ok?
its a top-feed Greddy 720cc ...suppose ur right as i changed it to 61% today; less black smoke, also changed the latency correction to +0.24ms...a guestimation..the exhaust 'sounds' better than previously...still need to get the correct latency figures...
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The correction factor for the sizing will go from what injector size the car with from factory, not what injectors were last in the car though.

Any information I am giving you on here is not to be taken as being true, you will have to check for yourself. You really need a wide band & correct latency values to be messing with this stuff though. There is a very good chance you will do damage.

Also those injectors in the photo, if they are the ones you are replacing are side feeds not top feeds.

I believe the correction should be 0.13. But YOU need to check this.

Injector latency - You will be looking for 720cc Denso injectors. Greddy are just rebranded Densos.

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The correction factor for the sizing will go from what injector size the car with from factory, not what injectors were last in the car though.

Any information I am giving you on here is not to be taken as being true, you will have to check for yourself. You really need a wide band & correct latency values to be messing with this stuff though. There is a very good chance you will do damage.

Also those injectors in the photo, if they are the ones you are replacing are side feeds not top feeds.

I believe the correction should be 0.13. But YOU need to check this.

Injector latency - You will be looking for 720cc Denso injectors. Greddy are just rebranded Densos.

Fuel Injector Lag Time
Tnx a million m8! Done the research and now its running at 61%/0.12ms . . .tho my IGN/INJ temp corr still at +2/0.859 as theres still black smoke at the xhaust (rich) . . .mybe it IS the o-rings that fcuked up.
PS. 0.8bar/6 knock ..without really testing it hard
PPS. Xtra black fumes during gear change (3rd) under mdium load (3,500rpm) ...yep I know, BOV vents to atm
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Can you post up a screen shot of your fuel map?

Have you access to a wideband sensor / gauge?
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Can you post up a screen shot of your fuel map?

Have you access to a wideband sensor / gauge?
here's the model & IGN map
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additional INJ map;
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The fuel map looks "OK". You need to do one of 3 things as I see it.

1. Go to a proper shop & get it checked / tuned.
2. Plug in a wideband AFR meter and actually have a look at what the car is doing.
3. Consider you may have a problem with your MAF / AFM also causing over fuelling.

There are other parameters too in the FC that can make a change in fuel settings, such as TPS, Accel Inj, cold start enrichment..... All of these need to be changed using either Apexi software or a Datalogit.

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