Harness
 

Hello,

Looking at getting a harness, just need some advice. 4 or 5 point? And what am I looking at to be able to install it, Do I need to get mounts fitted or anything like that?


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It all depends on what you want to do.

I have a 4 point Willans harness and have been very happy with that.

Install wise, the two lap belts, you can put the eyelet through the stock seatbelt mounting holes.

For the 2 shoulder belts they are connected to a harness bar in my boot. There are a lot of options for these, but make sure the harness installed legally (CAMS) and won't just pop out under impact (some people bolt them onto the parcel shelf with no additional strengthening - looks good, works not so good) - it is there for safety so you want to make sure it stays in the car.

Legalities of driving with a harness on the road are a bit iffy and personally it is a pain in the ass to do it (you can't easily look over your shoulder etc without loosening straps). So make sure you keep the standard belts in.

^^^^^ what John said

I have a 4 point Willans as well. Mine is bolted into the rear parcel, haven't and don't plan on testing out the 'works not so good' but was told that I could put the harness bar in but bolting into the rear parcel is going to be 99% as good.

Revolution Race gear should have them in stock.

Thanks mate, looks like will give the parcel shelf a miss then might take it somewhere and get this done properly when I do it. Just want something for the occasional track day so be good to have it removable.


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Honestly the rear parcel is fine! Especially if it's only for the odd track day. It is so much easier than pulling your car apart everytime you want to use your harness. If your still worried then wear a seatbelt as well.

[QUOTE=wannabox]Thanks mate, looks like will give the parcel shelf a miss then might take it somewhere and get this done properly when I do it. Just want something for the occasional track day so be good to have it removable.


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MMS can weld in mounts with eyelets at the correct angle behind your rear seat...down side is that you have to remove the back seat to clip in the harness.
5 point is only possible (properly) if you have a race seat with a hole for the crutch strap.

^^^ Correcto.

If I was putting them in the rear shelf, id have doubler plates put on for some added strength.

If the belts are going to rip out (something I have to take into consideration, since I weigh a bit more than the average bear) there would be no point putting a harness in.

Safety first, everything else second.

[QUOTE=Kato]^^^ Correcto.

If I was putting them in the rear shelf, id have doubler plates put on for some added strength.

If the belts are going to rip out (something I have to take into consideration, since I weigh a bit more than the average bear) there would be no point putting a harness in.

Safety first, everything else second.[/QUOTE]
I would recommend against the rear parcel shelf placement since they will be too high and therefore at the wrong angle...and possibly will be rejected by a CAMS scrutineer. Recommended angle for the shoulder strap is 0 - 10 deg down from horizontal OF DRIVER'S SHOULDER. Acceptable is 0 - 40 deg

go to [url]www.rallynuts.com[/url] they have heaps of different brands, all well priced. When I was putting together my rally car, I bought a lot of stuff off of them. I think it was around $150-200 for 6 point Sabelts at the time.

I wouldn't be using a harness without a cage.