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Rossco 01-10-2015 02:28 PM

[QUOTE=RJ999;830741]
Rossco - do you have an Ethanol Content Analyzer? Test was done with a friend's car that has a Zeitronix ECA.
[/QUOTE]

Nope - completely unnecessary if you know how to read a wideband & have an accurate system (I have a Techedge 2J - same as All Star use on every tune) & the difference between E85 & E70 is 3 octane points i.e Fuck all.

Australian E85 standard excerpt From [URL="https://www.comlaw.gov.au/Search/E85"]https://www.comlaw.gov.au/Search/E85[/URL]:

"E85, as it is commonly known worldwide, [B]is a blend of between 70 and 85 per cent by volume ethanol[/B] and the remainder petrol. In summer, internationally, E85 contains 85 per cent ethanol. [B]In mild climates, such as much of Australia, E85 usually contains 70 per cent ethanol in the winter months as the larger petrol component allows cold starts[/B]. For very cold winters overseas, the ethanol proportion is lowered to 50 per cent. Despite the seasonal variation in the ethanol proportion, the fuel is still typically referred to internationally as ‘E85’."

Sorry to break it to you RJ, there is no problem with the fuel. The octane rating is no lower than 105 (E70) and no higher that 108 (E85) in Australia.

Rossco 01-10-2015 02:31 PM

[QUOTE=N1GHTH4WK92;830744]Fuck. It goes to like 11 or 12ish on full boost. Sits at 22+ on rot/idle. Has only started sitting at 18 pretty recently, fuck knows what's causing that then...[/QUOTE]

My rotational hovers between 23-25 which is normal due to the rotational fuel cut at idle (pumps lots of cool air through the motor).

I tuned for 11.4:1 above 1 bar of boost.

Your not seeing the 18's at very light throttle on over run by chance?

N1GHTH4WK92 01-10-2015 02:51 PM

[QUOTE=Rossco;830746]My rotational hovers between 23-25 which is normal due to the rotational fuel cut at idle (pumps lots of cool air through the motor).

I tuned for 11.4:1 above 1 bar of boost.

Your not seeing the 18's at very light throttle on over run by chance?[/QUOTE]

What do you mean by over run? It will sit up at like 18 when just cruising at pretty much any speed.

Rossco 01-10-2015 02:54 PM

Over run as in being just on the throttle rolling down a hill or coasting.

What wideband controller do you have? How old is your sensor?

N1GHTH4WK92 01-10-2015 02:58 PM

[QUOTE=Rossco;830748]Over run as in being just on the throttle rolling down a hill or coasting.

What wideband controller do you have? How old is your sensor?[/QUOTE]

Ah k, yeah stays around the same. And innovate, it's maybe 3 months old. Unsure if calibrated for E85 or 98 though. Hasn't been installed in the way I asked so I can't access the plug to recalibrate it.

Rossco 01-10-2015 03:23 PM

There's no recalibration needed between the 2 fuel types.

Tony 01-10-2015 03:25 PM

How far away from the turbo, Cats (if you have any) os the sensor located?

RJ999 01-10-2015 03:58 PM

Probably no problem with the fuel Rossco but I would rather fill up at stations where Im getting the extra 3 octanes to 107 instead of E70...there is something in the tank that's lowering the content at ozzy park as proven, but its not a problem as such I guess... its like having your car tuned for 98 Premium then filling up with Unleaded 95...fuck that!
Also that statement you posted above is for generic e85 not the uniteds pumping "Race Blend" I believe which is meant to be guaranteed to deliver 107 octane without any lower variations than 107?

nick73 01-10-2015 04:35 PM

Lexia, Osi Park, Ellenbrook and Padbury are all mean to be "Race Fuel''. That's what they said when I rang them anyway.

Padbury is not listed on their website though....

That will be my closest station, as of tomorrow.

RJ999 01-10-2015 05:06 PM

Correct and race blend is meant to be a guaranteed minimum of 107 octane as I understand it.


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