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baylee 01-10-2015 05:36 PM

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Problem solvered.... ;-)

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Kremer930 01-10-2015 05:58 PM

How much is a tank like that?

Rossco 01-10-2015 06:03 PM

[QUOTE=RJ999;830752]Probably no problem with the fuel Rossco but I would rather fill up at stations where Im getting the extra 3 octanes to 107 instead of E70...there is something in the tank that's lowering the content at ozzy park as proven, but its not a problem as such I guess... its like having your car tuned for 98 Premium then filling up with Unleaded 95...fuck that!
Also that statement you posted above is for generic e85 not the uniteds pumping "Race Blend" I believe which is meant to be guaranteed to deliver 107 octane without any lower variations than 107?[/QUOTE]

RJ, Pure ethanol (E100%) has a RON rating of 108.6.

Have you not noticed the the 107 OCTANE bowsers do not have '107RON' written anywhere on them?
Australia uses 'Research Octane Rating' to label fuels - not 'Octane'.....

But you've missed the point - The octane rating of E85 is in the region of 105(+/-), but when combined with its cooling properties, the actual knock resistance of E85 is much higher than the RON rating would suggest, it's nothing like 95 v's 98 - the fuels behave completely differently inside your motor.

In plain English this means that when E85 is injected into the engine, it goes through a phase change from liquid to gas and during this process it absorbs a lot of heat from the intake charge. A colder intake charge is denser and improves power, but also has the effect of making the engine far less prone to detonation..... Unless your tuner is a muppet.

Stop stressing about 'E85' ethanol content.........You're on a witch hunt.......... all you're doing is showing your lack of understanding on the subject.

Remember United's P100? Well that was simply 98RON with 10% ethanol.

TL;DR: As was mentioned already there is very little difference in the detonation resistance of e70 and e85. The difference is less than one octane point. In other words, don't sweat the difference.

baylee 01-10-2015 06:10 PM

Retail is about $3 a litre I think..


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Jacob92 01-10-2015 06:16 PM

[QUOTE=nick73;830753]Lexia, Osi Park, Ellenbrook and Padbury are all mean to be "Race Fuel''. That's what they said when I rang them anyway.

Padbury is not listed on their website though....

That will be my closest station, as of tomorrow.[/QUOTE]

All e85 on pump is race blend .. enjoy ....



As for e70 look at yhe side of the pump it says may vary in ethanol content 70-85%..........

RJ999 01-10-2015 06:18 PM

[QUOTE=Rossco;830757]RJ, Pure ethanol (E100%) has a RON rating of 108.6.

Have you not noticed the the 107 OCTANE bowsers do not have '107RON' written anywhere on them?
Australia uses 'Research Octane Rating' to label fuels - not 'Octane'.....

But you've missed the point - The octane rating of E85 is in the region of 105(+/-), but when combined with its cooling properties, the actual knock resistance of E85 is much higher than the RON rating would suggest, it's nothing like 95 v's 98 - the fuels behave completely differently inside your motor.

In plain English this means that when E85 is injected into the engine, it goes through a phase change from liquid to gas and during this process it absorbs a lot of heat from the intake charge. A colder intake charge is denser and improves power, but also has the effect of making the engine far less prone to detonation..... Unless your tuner is a muppet.

Stop stressing about 'E85' ethanol content.........You're on a witch hunt.......... all you're doing is showing your lack of understanding on the subject.

Remember United's P100? Well that was simply 98RON with 10% ethanol.

TL;DR: As was mentioned already there is very little difference in the detonation resistance of e70 and e85. The difference is less than one octane point. In other words, don't sweat the difference.[/QUOTE]

OK that makes sense and good to know that its nothing to worry much about...I won't stop using osborne park but I'll still go fill at gnangara or padbury before a track day as the fuel seems to keep better there as proven.

Bram 01-10-2015 07:11 PM

[quote=kremer930;830756]how much is a tank like that?[/quote]

205 liters

dazdavies 01-10-2015 07:58 PM

This stuff seems nice enough.

But i'm not really in a position to comment yet I've only managed 0.5bar and 4800rpm so far :D

[img]http://www.scoob.co.uk/blackhawk/fuelsystem/properfuel.jpg[/img]

Rossco 01-10-2015 08:23 PM

[QUOTE=dazdavies;830762]This stuff seems nice enough.

But i'm not really in a position to comment yet I've only managed 0.5bar and 4800rpm so far :D

[img]http://www.scoob.co.uk/blackhawk/fuelsystem/properfuel.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]

It's good Juice!

Smash in 1.7bar & bring the timing up to around 13-14 degrees on boost......And hang on haha!

dazdavies 01-10-2015 08:35 PM

I'll be throwing 2.1bar through it. None of this baby boost you speak of :D Lets hope my sleeves hold up LOL


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