Perth-WRX.com  

Go Back   Perth-WRX.com > Technical > Mechanicals
Register Diddy Kart ArticlesAll AlbumsBlogs FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Welcome to Perth-WRX, click here to register!

Like Tree2Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 20-06-2013, 01:34 PM
thehowlfactor's Avatar
Subaru Tech Division
Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Perth
Posts: 1,038
Thanks: 13
Thanked 63 Times in 56 Posts
thehowlfactor knows their stuff
Default Turbo Back Exhaust Tune

Hi everyone, I know very little when it comes to cars so some information would be greatly appreciated. I am thinking about buying a turbo back exhaust (brand yet to be determined) for my MY06 WRX. From what I have read on the forums a tune is recommended after installing. My question is, what is exactly does this tune consist of? Is it one of the non standard tunes such as Ecutek or Verso or is just a normal tune that a Subaru dealer would do on a standard service. Also, is installing a turbo back exhaust a good idea when the car in completely stock? Should I start with something else or should I also install other components when I put the exhaust on? An idea of costs for these installs and tunes would also be appreciated.


Thanks

Phillip
__________________
[I]and then we discovered it wasn't the Robot King after all, it was the real one. Fortunately I was able to reattach the head.[/I]
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 20-06-2013, 01:51 PM
REXXXED's Avatar
Subaru Tech Division
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Probably Fishing
Posts: 1,917
Thanks: 55
Thanked 56 Times in 45 Posts
REXXXED knows their stuff
Default

Not a Subaru service.

Use the search button up top and look up Verso and Ecutek for prices and peoples experiences etc.
Dont expect any change from about $1200 for either for your first tune (re-tunes are cheaper later on).

My personal experience tell's me I will continue returning the ASG in Malaga for my future tuning. They will Verso tune your car.

OR you can go aftermarket ECU such as VIPEC, MOTEC etc.
For a street car that barely/doesn' see the track, don't waste your money/don't let anyone talk you into wasting your money...

At the same time as the exhaust and tune, I would definitely upgrade the fuel pump and increase the boost slightly
To be honest whilst it's in the shop, possibly look at a turbo and intercooler upgrade as well to get a massive increase in performance.

If you you do the standard engine mods, definitely think about your suspension and brakes also. Thicker sway bars, upgraded brake rotors etc etc
__________________
[COLOR="Red"][B]Need Finance for a new Car or Mortgage??? Call or email me today:[/b][/COLOR]
[b][color="BLUE"][url]http://www.themortgagegallery.com.au/find-a-broker/manager/sam-zurzolo.aspx[/url][/b][/COLOR]

Last edited by REXXXED; 20-06-2013 at 01:55 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to REXXXED For This Useful Post:
thehowlfactor (20-06-2013)
  #3  
Old 20-06-2013, 01:59 PM
TROLLEY's Avatar
Flat Four Father
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Perth
Posts: 2,680
Thanks: 166
Thanked 158 Times in 127 Posts
TROLLEY is a guruTROLLEY is a guru
Default

Subaru don't tune your car when you get a service. Do this:

1) search Verso on the forums, read
2) search Ecutek on the forum, read
3) make a decision based on the information presented to you (preferably, pick your tuner/workshop as opposed to the product)
4) enjoy a few extra horsepower and dakdak rumble
__________________
[I]trolololol[/I]
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to TROLLEY For This Useful Post:
thehowlfactor (20-06-2013)
  #4  
Old 20-06-2013, 02:24 PM
SyncSubaru's Avatar
Subaru Tech Division
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Perth
Posts: 1,322
Thanks: 31
Thanked 30 Times in 20 Posts
SyncSubaru at standard level
Default

A tune is required for just a TBE, but you will be removing a restriction from the flow of exhaust from the engine, helping it to breathe better and changing the way it works, so it certainly is recommended. But as stated already, the best bang for buck is to collect up a standard set of entry level supporting mods such as the intake and fuel pump, and get it all tuned to work together in one hit so that later on you are prepared to upgrade the turbo or intercoolers with a minimal retune.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to SyncSubaru For This Useful Post:
thehowlfactor (20-06-2013)
  #5  
Old 20-06-2013, 02:33 PM
mattmy99's Avatar
Sign me up!
Subaru Tech Division
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: 6056 and 4000
Posts: 1,814
Thanks: 11
Thanked 35 Times in 25 Posts
mattmy99 knows their stuff
Default

As stated above, a tune and a service are very different things.
A tune involves modifying the air, fuel, timing etc parameters of the car's ECU.
__________________
Signarape!
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to mattmy99 For This Useful Post:
thehowlfactor (20-06-2013)
  #6  
Old 20-06-2013, 03:16 PM
98kellrs's Avatar
STI Master
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Upside down
Posts: 717
Thanks: 40
Thanked 33 Times in 26 Posts
98kellrs at standard level
Default

My understanding is that any mods which change either the amount or ratio of fuel or air going in or out will require a tune.

Definitely do a fuel pump upgrade as this is required for nearly all turbo or intercooler mods running big boost.

The more mods you can do the better as this will save on retune costs.

Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2
__________________
Ryan
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 20-06-2013, 04:03 PM
Scoobie Noobie
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Canberra
Posts: 3
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Pedgierex at standard level
Default

I have personally owned a 04 wrx with mrt xb kit(TBE, fuel pump and ecutek tune) pretty expensive think about 4g but I can not say one bad word about it car performed great and was improved fuel efficiency. as stated in this thread a tune you will need is all about adjusting air fuel mixtures and ignition timing also increasing boost for all your mods to work together, don't buy a cold air intake almost every tuner I have spoken to tells me they are worthless! good exhaust brands mrt, xforce, invidia
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 24-06-2013, 02:37 PM
Tony's Avatar
Subaru Tech Division
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Stoneville
Posts: 1,288
Thanks: 38
Thanked 71 Times in 69 Posts
Tony knows their stuff
Default

I put a ultrex tbe and walbro fuel pump on my 07 rex and went and got it tuned. The stick tune is fucking dreadful. My car now sits at 228whp and is so much smoother too drive. The drivability alone is worth a tune.
nick73 likes this.
__________________
The one perkent...
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 24-06-2013, 07:36 PM
RichX's Avatar
Perth WRX Old Skool Cool Dude
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Pub
Posts: 4,137
Thanks: 31
Thanked 53 Times in 45 Posts
RichX knows their stuff
Default

I ran a TBE and Up-pipe without a tune for a few weeks. I found that:

a) It ran very rich
b) Fairly large boost kick, then not much else after that. So definitely not an optimised tune for the engine.

A tune levelled/smoothed it all out. Cleans up the tune and gets your economy back. You don't need to do other mods with a TBE other than the tune imho. Unless you are doing a new turbo, injectors, intercooler etc all at the same time to save doing 2 tunes later.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 24-06-2013, 07:42 PM
thehowlfactor's Avatar
Subaru Tech Division
Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Perth
Posts: 1,038
Thanks: 13
Thanked 63 Times in 56 Posts
thehowlfactor knows their stuff
Default

Thanks to all who replied, it was very informative. I have also spoken to Neil at MMS who helped clear up a lot of my questions. An exhaust and tune are in my future plans but may have to wait for the funds.
__________________
[I]and then we discovered it wasn't the Robot King after all, it was the real one. Fortunately I was able to reattach the head.[/I]

Last edited by thehowlfactor; 24-06-2013 at 07:47 PM.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
back, exhaust, tune, turbo

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Wanted wrx MY01 bugeye stock turbo back exhaust ecl27 Wanted 4 02-11-2012 12:55 PM
WTB: 3inch turbo back exhaust AntonRX Wanted 5 31-07-2012 10:13 AM
STI Turbo back exhaust for sale club$pec For Sale 1 13-04-2011 07:41 AM
Stock Turbo back Exhaust MY04 WRX SICKMREX For Sale 0 25-09-2010 08:57 AM



Welcome to Perth-WRX, click here to register!

All times are GMT +8. The time now is 04:58 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO